WW-N-H/DTRC Mandan 2011 Summer Series
01-23-2011, 07:49 AM
#46
+1
if its a nitro class the rules should be nitro rules at all times not changing them from race to race I myself Like the 20 minute mains for all nitro Classes
if its a nitro class the rules should be nitro rules at all times not changing them from race to race I myself Like the 20 minute mains for all nitro Classes
When you run 12 minute mains you have to stop once with a nitro car and not at all with an electric car, that is a big advantage already. When you run nitro it is fun to run a 20+ minute main and have to stop more than once. I think all nitro mains should be at least 20 minutes.
01-23-2011, 08:08 AM
#47
whats wrong with noobcake in the A-main? I thought the A-main was the race that everyone had to qualify to be in. and also the B, C, D etc... mains are normally called the last chance qualifiers..what happens with JoPro who has a bad round of qualifiers and needs the B to try to get into the Main? He still and will always have to race the noobcakes to go on..as said in earlier posts there's going to be bump ups, to make it sound like you can't have the noobcakes and JoPros race together. With the uneven turnouts we have, we better take the good and bad and make something out of it.
01-23-2011, 08:30 AM
#48
whats wrong with noobcake in the A-main? I thought the A-main was the race that everyone had to qualify to be in. and also the B, C, D etc... mains are normally called the last chance qualifiers..what happens with JoPro who has a bad round of qualifiers and needs the B to try to get into the Main? He still and will always have to race the noobcakes to go on..as said in earlier posts there's going to be bump ups, to make it sound like you can't have the noobcakes and JoPros race together. With the uneven turnouts we have, we better take the good and bad and make something out of it.
I still would like to run nitro and electric seperate though.
01-23-2011, 09:41 AM
#49
Personally i'd rather run them together and keep the compitition as high as possible than split them up and have longer run times.... last year didnt a nitro buggy and an electric buggy finish the series tied in points.... it cant get closer than that so i would say electric doesnt have that much of an advantage.... my vote is to keep them together run 12 or 13 min mains and have 1 mandatory pit stop
01-23-2011, 05:13 PM
#52
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01-23-2011, 05:14 PM
#53
Personally i'd rather run them together and keep the compitition as high as possible than split them up and have longer run times.... last year didnt a nitro buggy and an electric buggy finish the series tied in points.... it cant get closer than that so i would say electric doesnt have that much of an advantage.... my vote is to keep them together run 12 or 13 min mains and have 1 mandatory pit stop
The rules for a class to run has been the same since the invetion of organized racing. X amount of cars makes a class. If there isn't enough cars to make a class they either don't race or you can add them into another class if others don't mind. The main issue is 1/8th nitro/electric. If there isn't enough of one or the other, such is life. Follow the rules for the class and that is that. If the main is 20 minutes do a battery swap. I would think with a little creativity 1 pitstop for a battery change would be pretty close to 3 stops for fuel.
Keep the discussion going guys. Lets get things sorted before the snow melts.
01-23-2011, 05:50 PM
#56
Electrics do have advantages. No flame outs, no engine tuning, No going rich, no going lean, no clutch issues, more power, better breaking faster pitstop. The only real disadvantage they have is run time.
The rules for a class to run has been the same since the invetion of organized racing. X amount of cars makes a class. If there isn't enough cars to make a class they either don't race or you can add them into another class if others don't mind. The main issue is 1/8th nitro/electric. If there isn't enough of one or the other, such is life. Follow the rules for the class and that is that. If the main is 20 minutes do a battery swap. I would think with a little creativity 1 pitstop for a battery change would be pretty close to 3 stops for fuel.
Keep the discussion going guys. Lets get things sorted before the snow melts.
The rules for a class to run has been the same since the invetion of organized racing. X amount of cars makes a class. If there isn't enough cars to make a class they either don't race or you can add them into another class if others don't mind. The main issue is 1/8th nitro/electric. If there isn't enough of one or the other, such is life. Follow the rules for the class and that is that. If the main is 20 minutes do a battery swap. I would think with a little creativity 1 pitstop for a battery change would be pretty close to 3 stops for fuel.
Keep the discussion going guys. Lets get things sorted before the snow melts.
3 fuel stops is going to be way faster than a battery change.... average pit stop for nitro should be well under 10 sec. so thats only 30 sec. max for the whole race. I dont think changing out a battery is going to be anywhere near that fast.Also alot of things can go wrong on an e-buggy too, ive seen them go up in smoke before.
I guess id just like a chance to beat tyler this year
Are you planning on racing the series this year cookie?
01-24-2011, 08:08 AM
#58
In a perfect world, I'd like to have an all nitro 1/8th buggy class and a seperate class for 1/8 electric. You can't tell me that you wouldn't be more consistent with an electric vs nitro.
An E 1/8th can clear a triple with only a 2 foot run up from a dead stop.
No flame outs.
No engine stalls from a lawn dart landing or bad marshal ( hand over pipe).
No atmospheric effect on engine performance = unmatchable consistency.
I could go on and on... I say take a head count of how many e buggies there will be and if it's 4 or more then make another class. If there are less then run them together but keep the nitro rules, nitro rules.
Personally, I think anything less than a 20 min A Main for Buggy and Truggy is too short. It takes away from the realism of runing nitro. I also frown at the thought of driving 200 miles each way for a 12 and 15 min Buggy and Truggy main. Just my two pennies guys.
What ever you decide you know I'll be there.
An E 1/8th can clear a triple with only a 2 foot run up from a dead stop.
No flame outs.
No engine stalls from a lawn dart landing or bad marshal ( hand over pipe).
No atmospheric effect on engine performance = unmatchable consistency.
I could go on and on... I say take a head count of how many e buggies there will be and if it's 4 or more then make another class. If there are less then run them together but keep the nitro rules, nitro rules.
Personally, I think anything less than a 20 min A Main for Buggy and Truggy is too short. It takes away from the realism of runing nitro. I also frown at the thought of driving 200 miles each way for a 12 and 15 min Buggy and Truggy main. Just my two pennies guys.
What ever you decide you know I'll be there.
Last edited by Torian4000; 01-24-2011 at 09:50 AM.
01-24-2011, 02:47 PM
#60
So, a question to think about. In nitro racing, you depend on your pit guy(part of what makes it totally different than electric). Isn't it fair to say that in a 20 min race electric does a change of battery and it's equivalant to our 2/3 stops in nitro. If they have trouble with the battery change is that any different than us having a flameout leaving the pits with a nitro car?