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Old 06-14-2017, 09:38 AM   #31
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Tires. Tires are how you do it. Spec tires.

Some good things that would come with spec low traction , racing. First, longer tire life, reducing running costs. Second, an emphasis on driving skill, with less traction you need to be more careful on the throttle, and braking. Third, a reduction on the "motor of the week", if you're limiting your car based on traction, the motor matters much less. Fourth, an empasis on chassis setup. Instead of seeking the most stable, and most consistant setup that won't flip, you'll be seeking the highest traction setup, even at the cost of some stabilty. "Fourth" would also lead to more interesting racing.
I agree with longer tire life, but how is the current situation not reliant on driver skill? The guys that smoked me on low grip carpet are doing the same on high grip carpet, but now our tires have some glue on them. Motorsport will always be about having good motors, I don't care what you race. Chassis setup is still super important, and glue is one of many parameters to a good setup. Is lower grip asphalt racing more interesting?
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:36 AM   #32
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It's less dependent on driver skill. Throttle is less important now, with the excess of traction.

The less time spent at full throttle, the less a motor matters. If you can't pin the throttle through the whole infield, then motor "doesn't matter" through the whole infield.

Lets go back to the slot car thing. A slot car where you need to lift twice a lap, is a lot less challenging to drive than one where you need to brake, do maintenance throttle, then roll on the power when coming out of corners.

Glue is a very annoying tuning "tool" as it wears and changes much faster than anyone should need to deal with. Heck tire wear is annoying, much less having to re-apply glue 2-3-4 times over the life of a tire. If you're trying to juggle glue wear, and tire wear, you're not starting off in a good place. Glue is also hard to undo.
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:43 AM   #33
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Just try a super stiff sidewall and ridiculously hard compound combined with a normal tread surface compound. It can't be rocket science. Drift car sidewall type compound, normal surface compound.

Gluing is a tuning technique not a bandaid, in order to detune grip.
And you have to reglue usually after each race weekend to keep the sidewall stiff. It's just part of the game.
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Going to test more caster and give the feedback once I have enough certainty of the outcome.

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After some tests and talking with people far more into 1:1 racing and setup there was something that was more or less agreed, our cars have too little caster. Having more caster(above 6) should take care of this condition without messing further with setups.
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