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Old 04-05-2017, 06:56 PM   #16
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Well with 13.5 , 17.5 ,21.5, 25.5 there is almost 3 per class
3 cars per class is the point I was alluding to in my original post. Wouldn't racing against 9 or 10 others be better than watching or racing 3 cars at a time?

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3 cars per class is the point I was alluding to in my original post. Wouldn't racing against 9 or 10 others be better than watching or racing 3 cars at a time?

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If you take all 9 cars that are spread out over 3 classes...who is then going to marshal the one race of 9 cars?
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If you take all 9 cars that are spread out over 3 classes...who is then going to marshal the one race of 9 cars?
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3 cars per class is the point I was alluding to in my original post. Wouldn't racing against 9 or 10 others be better than watching or racing 3 cars at a time?

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my point less classes more racers in the heat
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I've had this crazy idea about how you could do handicapped racing. If you've ever went bowling in a league, each bowler gets a handicap (number of pins) based on their performance from previous weeks. This way a really bad bowler can compete with a really good bowler.

One it would hove to be all touring car, but I guess you could do this in a pan car class as well. And you would have to have a point series. So week one everyone runs 17.5. Here's the fun part; on week 2, the top 3 guys from the previous week would have to run 25.5, the next 3 have to run 21.5, and the rest of the field can run 17.5 And each week it changes based on the point standings. Now we'll see if the really good driver with a 25.5 can compete with the average driver and a 17.5. And you would eliminate the entire motor argument!

Not sure how well it would work, but it would be fun to try.
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I've had this crazy idea about how you could do handicapped racing. If you've ever went bowling in a league, each bowler gets a handicap (number of pins) based on their performance from previous weeks. This way a really bad bowler can compete with a really good bowler.

One it would hove to be all touring car, but I guess you could do this in a pan car class as well. And you would have to have a point series. So week one everyone runs 17.5. Here's the fun part; on week 2, the top 3 guys from the previous week would have to run 25.5, the next 3 have to run 21.5, and the rest of the field can run 17.5 And each week it changes based on the point standings. Now we'll see if the really good driver with a 25.5 can compete with the average driver and a 17.5. And you would eliminate the entire motor argument!

Not sure how well it would work, but it would be fun to try.
So now everyone is expected to own 3 different motors?
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So now everyone is expected to own 3 different motors?
You don't?
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I believe that the original concept is to simplify and expedite the program. By blending different classes into a single group(where car counts are 3 or less) you will speed up the program without loss of actual competition. If you put nine cars in a group composed of three separate classes you wind up with three class winners in each group. Four if you want to throw in overall winner. I know that I am going to do my damnedest to outdrive at least one of the higher classed cars. There is my victory, if I am first in my class all the better Handicapping makes it too much like kids sports programs where everybody gets a ribbon so their feeling aren't hurt. I know, there are competitors out there that have grown up under little league rules and feel that they are still due the ribbon for just showing up. Hopefully they will get over it or grow up.

Over complicating rules just thins the ranks. If you want to make 21.5 the new(accepted) stock just apply the exact same rules that pertain to the 25.5 and be done with it. Over. Finished. The manufacturer's will accept it and create product accordingly. If they don't they lose market share to the company that will. Make everything else modified.
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17.5,21.5and 25.5 depending on track all of the laps are very close
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17.5,21.5and 25.5 depending on track all of the laps are very close
Wouldn't you want to find out how you would do against Captain Sponsored if he had a 25.5 and you had a 17.5?

It's just a concept. I like thinking way outside the box rather than rehash all the ideas from the past.
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i would be particularly against a high weight class because I already have to add 200 grams to my car to make 1350, i just dont have any more room on the chassis to pile it in there
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i would be particularly against a high weight class because I already have to add 200 grams to my car to make 1350, i just dont have any more room on the chassis to pile it in there
Then in this scenario, you would be able to run the 25.5 motor.

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I really don't care about "Captain Sponsored". I got over the "I" problems years ago. Been there done that with the whole sponsor thing. Have had all the suckers line up after a major event to buy the batteries, motors, speed controls and what not that I had just spent a couple of days abusing the crap out of because I had all new stuff in the mail for the next event. Being sponsored is like having a Knighthood from the Queen. That and a buck and a half will get you a cup of coffee.

If the factory wants to come and play in my yard then bring it on. I welcome the competition and the opportunity to either learn or teach something while bearing in mind the fact that I am having a good time seeking my level of incompetence with friends in the sunshine or glare of florescent lighting.

Additionally I wouldn't even want to hold the transmitter for a 17.5. Unlike a large percentage of the competitors out there, I know my limitations and therefore tailor my urges toward them.
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Slightly off topic, but since it involves adding weight, what chassis do have to add 200g to make 1350? I run a TC7.1 and don't need half that to make 1450g.

I hope you are including the body and tires in that 200g.
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My radical idea is to have race using touring cars with ROAR rules. Everyone signs up, gets placed in a heat, and you are racing. The fast guys will go faster and the slow guys will go slower. And it is up to you to figure out the best way for you to go your fastest.
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