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Old 01-31-2017, 01:40 PM   #91
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TSR is what we had at the Southern Nats
Was the minimum resistance tested on the Tsr motor? If so what was the results?
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I guess the weaker the class, the closer the motors will be... Novak is still competitive....
Has anybody here tested their motors at more than 7amps on the analyzer in a shaftdrive car rather than a belt one ??? I think it might be possible in a shaftdrive, and not in a belt drive...
hummmm, please clarify "weak" just so I dont type anything negative, please

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Was the minimum resistance tested on the Tsr motor? If so what was the results?
Im getting to that, but waiting to see if I get banned from the forum
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it should be pretty close on all the 25.5 roar approved motors with the 12.3 rotors
they did put a resistance rule on the 25.5...21.5 is next
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it should be pretty close on all the 25.5 roar approved motors with the 12.3 rotors
they did put a resistance rule on the 25.5...21.5 is next

yes that is true....we hope 21.5 and 17.5 will follow as well
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Weaker means 25.5t and 21.5t compared to 17.5t....
I am surprised they don't start teching for power(watts) output.... Say 100 watts max for 25.5t or also limiting torque output, bearing grades, shim material, rotor polishing, solder post sizes, silver solder percentage, cooling hole sizes, motor db noise, etc,...........
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Assuming no specific rules disallowing it what would be better a 25.5 with a 12.5 high torque rotor or the regular 12.3 rotor? ESC is blinky. Specifically the Trinity D3.5 25.5 and Maxilla version.
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I guess the weaker the class, the closer the motors will be... Novak is still competitive....
Has anybody here tested their motors at more than 7amps on the analyzer in a shaftdrive car rather than a belt one ??? I think it might be possible in a shaftdrive, and not in a belt drive...
2 points, no hate.....

No, Novak motors have not been competitive in quite some time, period, full stop. Even if their motors made power that was equal to the field, their motors are heavy. Weight kills.

Dyno testing is the only evidence I find acceptable in a public forum regarding this. As much as I appreciate the Darkside lap test there, it is moot data. He proved it himself by putting a Novak motor near the front of a field with real motors in the cars.

I watched a Novak driver explode three motors in one day trying to clear a triple jump I could get easily with my no sponsorship at the time. After he got done gearing it where it liked he still felt the need to tell me how the motors didn't suck.... Very confusing.....
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I guess that's why Novak closed....
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2 points, no hate.....

No, Novak motors have not been competitive in quite some time, period, full stop. Even if their motors made power that was equal to the field, their motors are heavy. Weight kills.

Dyno testing is the only evidence I find acceptable in a public forum regarding this. As much as I appreciate the Darkside lap test there, it is moot data. He proved it himself by putting a Novak motor near the front of a field with real motors in the cars.

I watched a Novak driver explode three motors in one day trying to clear a triple jump I could get easily with my no sponsorship at the time. After he got done gearing it where it liked he still felt the need to tell me how the motors didn't suck.... Very confusing.....
So what do you consider competitive motors?
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I think the top 5 VTA cars at our track are all still using the Novak.
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Assuming no specific rules disallowing it what would be better a 25.5 with a 12.5 high torque rotor or the regular 12.3 rotor? ESC is blinky. Specifically the Trinity D3.5 25.5 and Maxilla version.
25.5 Rotors are at 12.3 Only. That is one of the set requirements of the motor.
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25.5 Rotors are at 12.3 Only. That is one of the set requirements of the motor.
Thanks for the response. Actually Trinity makes a 25.5 with a 12.5 rotor they call Maxzilla. Thats why I was asking. I would assume the 12.5 to be better overall but not class specific.
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Thanks for the response. Actually Trinity makes a 25.5 with a 12.5 rotor they call Maxzilla. Thats why I was asking. I would assume the 12.5 to be better overall but not class specific.
The Trinity is not on the ROAR list. It's is not allowed at any sanctioned events. I'm guessing they don't sell very many. For club it's fine as long as your fellow racers don't mind. If I was buying new I'd get any motor off the list. I just picked up the newly approved Reedy for my F1 build.
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Thanks for the response. Actually Trinity makes a 25.5 with a 12.5 rotor they call Maxzilla. Thats why I was asking. I would assume the 12.5 to be better overall but not class specific.
Under USVTA rules, only 12.3 rotors are legal in 25.5 motors although as you pointed out, there are some motors available with a 12.5.
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So does nobody know what is better, faster, stronger? There is no class, sanctioning body, or rules to consider here, just a 25.5 motor with a 12.3 or a 12.5 rotor. I will be putting it in a touring car.

My inclination is that if its not allowed in sanctioned rules and events the 12.5 must be better.
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