R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

    Hide Wikipost
Old 03-30-2017, 08:20 AM   -   Wikipost
R/C Tech Forums Thread Wiki: Xray T4'17
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been a member for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: R Dodge
Welcome to the XRAY T4'17 Thread & Wikipost! Here you will find some useful info, tips and tricks as well as setups that are used by several team drivers. This wikipost is a work in progress and should continue to develop over time. Feel free to add anything you feel is useful to the community!

New for 2017:
The T4'17 comes available with either a Graphite chassis, or Aluminum Flex chassis. We recommend the Graphite chassis for starting on asphalt, and the Aluminum Flex for starting on carpet. The 2017 also comes standard with the floating swing rack as an option, and the Composite Graphite arms included. Most of the team prefers the Graphite arms for both asphalt and carpet, though sometimes Hard arms may be ideal for asphalt depending on the conditions. This year's car also comes with the new "In-line Flex Adjustment" which provides many more flex adjustments than in the past allowing you to focus & fine-tune on forward/back flex and side-to-side flex both together & independently. Additionally, the Ackermann has been moved back by 1mm from the previous T4 models.

Tips & Tricks:

Alex Hagberg's Tech Tip Tuesday articles

How to mount your Protoform LTC-R Body
Setting static camber
How to mount weight on your chassis Part1
How to mount the rear wing on Protoform bodies
Simple troubleshooting guide
How to mount the battery on your chassis
How to glue your front tires for CRC Black carpet with Eric Anderson
Mastering the Sanwa M12S: Utilizing Exponential and RMode
How to mount weight on your chassis Part2
Mastering the Sanwa M12S: Utilizing TH-Hold

Team driver Tim Wahl posted some very useful build tips for the T4'16 on Facebook as he worked through building a new kit. These tips will still apply on the current model.

1- Carbon Parts
2-Suspension
3-Solid Axle and Differential
4-Bulkheads & Drivetrain
5-Driveshaft (ECS & CVD)
6-Front & Rear Suspension
7-Tweak
8-Anti-Roll Bar
9-Battery Fix (OPTIONAL)
10-Bumper & Body
11-Shocks
12-Steering

Center Brace - The manual indicates using a 2mm shim under the center brace. The gap is actually 3mm, so a 3mm shim should be used here.

Tuning Note: On Carpet we have found that adding screws or doubling up the graphite brace will make the car react quicker to steering input, & change direction faster. Raising the graphite brace off of the aluminum bulkheads by placing a shim under it on the front and rear holes will reduce response. We are working on getting more info on the turnbuckle & asphalt applications.

New Graphite Hubs:
Xray have recently released some additional Graphite hubs for the T4 lineup. The 4° Graphite C-Hub has been out for some time and is known to improve steering on entry, and in general makes the car turn better. This has been the go-to c-hub on asphalt for many on the Xray team, though it is not needed on high bite carpet. The Graphite rear hub tends to make the car more stable, especially on corner entry. We are still working on gathering input on the new Graphite steering block, but for the moment feel that it should improve steering response. All Graphite parts are approximately 1g lighter than the Hard or Medium options.

Optional & Tuning Parts to consider:
XRA301196 T4 Graphite Upper Deck 1.6mm V2
XRA302254 Composite Steering Block - Graphite
XRA302334 Aluminum C-Hub Block - Caster
0° - Orange *Only for ARS*
XRA302383 Composite C-Hub Right – 4
° - Graphite (ECS)
XRA302384 Composite C-Hub Left – 4
° - Graphite (ECS)
XRA302711 Brass Front Lower 1-Piece Suspension Holder - Front - FF
XRA302803 1.3mm Front Anti-Roll Bar
XRA303360 Composite Upright 0° Outboard Toe-In - Graphite
XRA303802 1.2mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar
XRA305137 Steel Solid Axle Driveshaft Adapters - HUDY Spring Steel *Highly recommend*
XRA305242 Composite Drive Shaft Replacement Cap 3.5mm – Orange – Strong (QTY 4)
XRA305351 Aluminum Wheel Hub – Offset “-0.75mm” – Black (QTY 2)
XRA305352 Aluminum Wheel Hub - Offset
“+0.75mm” - Black (QTY 2)
XRA306191 T4 Graphite + Aluminum Fully Adjustable Battery Holder
XRA308264 4S Spring-Set Progressive C=2.5-2.8 (QTY 2)
XRA308276 4S Spring-Set C=2.7 (QTY 2)
XRA308286 4S Spring-Set C=2.6 (QTY 2)

XRA308039 Aluminum Progressive Shock System – Set (QTY 2) *Only for asphalt*

Recent Setups:
Bruno Coelho - IIC 2016 - High Bite Carpet - Modified
Alex Hagberg - AOC HK 2016 - Med Bite Asphalt - Modified
Jan Ratheisky - AOC HK 2016 - Med Bite Asphalt - 13.5
Chris Adams - Halloween Classic - High Bite Carpet - Modified
Chris Adams - ROAR Region 9 - Med Bite Asphalt - Modified
Craig Xavier - US Indoor Champs - High Bite Carpet - 17.5
Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd1 Hrotovice - Med Bite Carpet - Modified
Craig Xavier - Stock Wars - High Bite Carpet - 17.5
Jan Ratheisky - DHI Cup - Med Bite Carpet - 13.5
Chris Adams - Texas EOS Rd 1 - High Bite Carpet - Modified
Alex Hagberg - Snowbird Nationals - High Bite Carpet - Modified
Robbie Dodge - Snowbird Nationals - High Bite Carpet - 17.5
Jan Ratheisky - TITC - High Bite Asphalt - 13.5
Drew Ellis - ROAR Carpet Nationals - High Bite Carpet - Modified
Eric Anderson - ROAR Carpet Nationals - High Bite Carpet - 17.5
Martin Crisp - Canadian Nationals - Medium Bite Carpet - Modified
Martin Crisp - Canadian Nationals - Medium Bite Carpet - 17.5
Dan Hamann - MN State Champs - High Bite Carpet - 17.5

Print Wikipost

Like Tree23Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-16-2016, 08:06 AM   #1
Tech Elite
 
R Dodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,076
Default Xray T4'17

Now that it's official.

RedRC Post


Xray Release

EDIT: Please check the wikipost at the top of this thread for the latest and greatest info on this kit. Everything from Pro tech tips to option parts to setup sheets. We will update as often as possible.
__________________
★RCAmerica •Xray •Hudy •Motiv •PROTOform •Gravity •Avid •TQ Wire •Sanwa •BSR •ProLevelRC •2mmDesigns •Timmy★

Last edited by R Dodge; 03-10-2017 at 07:05 AM. Reason: wikipost
R Dodge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 08:13 AM   #2
Set
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Malaysia
Posts: 79
Default

2 months to go
Set is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 10:41 AM   #3
Tech Champion
 
RC MARKET's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: HK
Posts: 6,137
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Default

Attached Thumbnails
Xray T4'17-xr-t4-17.png  
RC MARKET is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 11:51 AM   #4
Tech Regular
 
bdmpastx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Pearland, TX
Posts: 271
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quick, everyone sell your 2016! lol...
bdmpastx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 01:01 PM   #5
Tech Elite
 
Skiddins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Windsor, UK
Posts: 4,580
Default

Never sell up before I have the replacement in my hands
__________________
Xray T4'17, T4'14 (Wet Car)
Xray X12 2017
Xray X1'16
wlrc.co.uk (West London Racing Centre)
RCDisco.co.uk
Skiddins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 02:32 PM   #6
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 422
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default

Can't wait!
__________________
NORCAR @ The Gate | RC America | Xray | Hudy
nwagner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 02:41 PM   #7
Tech Adept
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 107
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Set View Post
2 months to go
Way before that son 👍👍👍👍
__________________
X-ray , 17.5 + mod , fantom motors , KO servos , HW XR10 pro , ORCA and LRP lcg LIPOS . Sponsored by my wallet . Lol lol
Real men race mod
Ggrant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 06:40 PM   #8
Tech Adept
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 107
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Let's place our bets guys lol lol what do u think they're going to change ? Minor or major ? Place ur bets guys ?
__________________
X-ray , 17.5 + mod , fantom motors , KO servos , HW XR10 pro , ORCA and LRP lcg LIPOS . Sponsored by my wallet . Lol lol
Real men race mod
Ggrant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 06:52 PM   #9
Set
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Malaysia
Posts: 79
Default

going with minor, maybe just a new rear diff case
Set is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 06:58 PM   #10
Tech Adept
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 107
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

I'm hoping eventually Xray goes and make a unconventional designed car and sets itself apart from some other manufacturers . It seems lately that the conventional cars are being hammered and something needs to be done to address the imbalance .
__________________
X-ray , 17.5 + mod , fantom motors , KO servos , HW XR10 pro , ORCA and LRP lcg LIPOS . Sponsored by my wallet . Lol lol
Real men race mod
Ggrant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 07:06 PM   #11
Tech Elite
 
JEFFs SC10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Orlandooooo, Fl
Posts: 3,689
Trader Rating: 14 (94%+)
Default

wonder what the changes will be.
__________________
offroad - AE B44.3 / /Serpent SRX2 MM / /
onroad - VTA AE TC7 // XRAY 2017 T4//CRC Gen X SE- WGTR//Xray X12-17'
support your local tracks- Beachline Raceway-Revolution RC-Full Throttle Raceway
JEFFs SC10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 07:14 PM   #12
Tech Lord
 
syndr0me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 5280 Raceway
Posts: 13,083
Trader Rating: 32 (100%+)
Default

I predict the T4'17 will actually just be a T4'16 in a new box with a picture of Bruno holding his world championship trophy on it.
syndr0me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 07:30 PM   #13
Set
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Malaysia
Posts: 79
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ggrant View Post
I'm hoping eventually Xray goes and make a unconventional designed car and sets itself apart from some other manufacturers . It seems lately that the conventional cars are being hammered and something needs to be done to address the imbalance .
Probably not gonna happen, it seems like only Tamiya left doing something new in their TA series, the rest (t4 bd7 trf etc) are practically samey with minor tidbits here and there
Set is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 08:02 PM   #14
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,216
Trader Rating: 20 (100%+)
Default

Conventional isn't really a bad thing. The current car is durable, fast and most people feel comfortable with them because they understand them. Also, there are parts everywhere for them with this current design so as long as the car is competitive and selling well I doubt there will be radical changes.

I've been driving Xray's for the last few years and in most cases I can't complain about them. I'm really tempted to try something different but I'm worried about the setup, spare parts, durability, etc. that I don't have to worry about much with Xray's current platform.
__________________
www.teamgravityrc.com
Leisure Hours Raceway
Troy Carter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 08:03 PM   #15
Tech Champion
 
TryHard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 5,223
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Minor... betting new motor/layshaft mounts slightly lowered, and new servo mount.

Maybe a double spec kit release? Carpet (with alloy chassis etc) and asphalt editions?
__________________
| THard.co.uk | Xray | Hobbywing |
TryHard is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Tags
2017, b2uk, sedan, t4'17, touring, xray


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 6 (5 members and 1 guests)
aalewis, Chris Adams, erchn, teddymp9
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 09:44 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net