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Old 10-05-2016, 07:08 PM   #496
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Can't wait to hear the reasoning behind this...
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:00 PM   #497
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there must be more to this IFMAR change. 2x voltage should only mean more speed. how is that considered a necessary adjustment to the status-quo? perhaps they are moving to a 380 can from the age-old 540 can? (but I don't even know of a sensored 380 available on the market) maybe this is a spoof, it is hard to see the logic behind it.

of all the recent chatter on this subject, adjusting the 'superstock' class from 13.5 to 8.5 or 6.5 made the most sense. A stock class, an open class and something more towards the middle that could bridge the two.
Apparently mod 1/12 was too slow and easy to drive.
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:31 PM   #498
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Won't going to 2S limit capacity? Perhaps they're thinking it will force people to run slower motors to make run time? Didn't Howard already educate us on why this won't be a net change?
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:42 PM   #499
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Wasn't there talk of making TC 1s not that long ago???
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Old 10-05-2016, 11:06 PM   #500
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Can't wait to hear the reasoning behind this...
Me too. But "reasoning" might be too strong a word!

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Wasn't there talk of making TC 1s not that long ago???
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Old 10-06-2016, 05:56 AM   #501
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Wasn't there talk of making TC 1s not that long ago???
Yes. Thankfully that died.

Didn't someone have a thread about going to 380 size motors, about the time LiPo was coming into the hobby? Don't remember that guy...
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Old 10-06-2016, 06:19 AM   #502
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btw., I tried 6,5 blinky last weekend. BRCA and whoever just created the PERFECT stock class with this. Itīs fast, easy to control and enough motor not having to fight about which motor rocks this week.
But honestly, this ainīt mod. Itīs Pro Stock, but not mod, especially without boost.
Not alot difference to the old European 10,5 stock class which was fine till BRCA and EFRA ruled towards useless 13,5 ...

In mod you need to hear and feel the motor rev up and scream as soon as the turbo kicks in on the straight.
But yes, itīs fun to drive.
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Yes that is correct. 2s in 1/12....now you may appreciate my last post a little more. Note ROAR voted AGAINST change.
Interesting...
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Old 10-06-2016, 02:08 PM   #504
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do you guys driving modified

use brake before a corner ???

or only throttle control

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Old 10-06-2016, 11:29 PM   #505
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do you guys driving modified

use brake before a corner ???

or only throttle control

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If I take a corner right and I have the correct front end alignment, my car doesn't need me to use the brakes to slow for corners. Sometimes I will tune in a little drag brake to give a little more steering, but I really don't like to use it as it makes other parts of the track a little less predictable, like coasting through a sweeper.

I also turned the brakes down to like 15% so if they get used in a panic mode it wont make the car completely use control.
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This thread sure died.
Where is the follow up to IIC?
I was there and watched. It was nice to see the cars with a little more control than the previous rules, but I do not feel the 6.5t is the right way to go. Not sure if the IFMAR 2s is right either but I want to see it in action before I condemn it.

I can give you some insight as to why IFMAR is looking to 2s.
#1 easier to operate all the electronics in the car with higher voltage. At the WC there were many cars going out of control due to Rxs dropping voltage. Also over heat was a major issue again leading to cars running out of control. This occurred during the TC part as well so not limited to 1s.
#2 Less runtime in the battery, you will have to motor down.

I wish we could have tried running a car at IIC with the 2s battery but sadly no one had any available.
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Certainly you have good points, but it would have been better to do some real world testing before jumping in as IFMAR has. At least it would be easier to see if there would be unintended consequences.
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Certainly you have good points, but it would have been better to do some real world testing before jumping in as IFMAR has. At least it would be easier to see if there would be unintended consequences.
i agree but also think that IFMAR had done nothing then this experiment would never happen. It's 2 years till the next WC so if some people do try and find problems things can still be changed.
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This thread sure died.
Where is the follow up to IIC?
I was there and watched. It was nice to see the cars with a little more control than the previous rules, but I do not feel the 6.5t is the right way to go. Not sure if the IFMAR 2s is right either but I want to see it in action before I condemn it.

I can give you some insight as to why IFMAR is looking to 2s.
#1 easier to operate all the electronics in the car with higher voltage. At the WC there were many cars going out of control due to Rxs dropping voltage. Also over heat was a major issue again leading to cars running out of control. This occurred during the TC part as well so not limited to 1s.
#2 Less runtime in the battery, you will have to motor down.

I wish we could have tried running a car at IIC with the 2s battery but sadly no one had any available.
Sean you are right with the cars were more under control, but the 6.5 blinky class reintroduced the stock finger. because no real throttle control was required on the black carpet. unlike to open mod.

I think that the 2S way will eventually take the motor of the week thing out of stock 1/12. instead 17.5/13.5 it will be 25.5 and
21.5.
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The only issue with 6.5 appeared to be hand wound motors differences. Some people had big power... Most didn't.
The fast cars didnt look out of control.. And the back of A/b/c mains weren't a mess.
I'll be running 6.5 tomorrow and at the Halloween Classic next week...
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