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Old 01-04-2012, 03:20 AM   #1741
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Hey guys. Drifting n00b.

I've just bought a TT01 that's had the 3 racing m-chassis conversion second hand.

The yeah racing m-chassis drift wheels that I bought turned up today so I chucked them on and took it for a spin. Not the best drifting experience unfortunately.

I've not touched the diffs since I got it. The rear diff is locked, and the front diff seems quite stiff. I'm thinking the front diff is too stiff, making the front end 'push'.

How should the front diff be set up?

I have some 3 racing m-chassis dampers coming, which should hopefully help things a bit.

I think I have other issues too. I believe it's geared too short.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:33 PM   #1742
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what uuup guys! im a newb to the rc drift world so dont hate lol. I race sc trucks and want to get into drifting. Ive been putting together a df03ra rally car and was wondering if i can maybe throw some stiffer springs on it and use it for drifting? i was going to get a drift box just to get used to it. So far it has full ball bearings, 3 racing shafts, and a hobby wing 9t/60a setup on a 2s 5000mah lipo. I was thinking it should do ok? just get some sushi drift tires? what do you guys think?
Your df03ra will work just fine. I've drifted my 4wd Slash on painted concrete. The sushi drift tires will be the best all around choice for drifting on multiple surfaces. For beginners I would recomend asphalt as it provides just enough traction, yet with enough throttle you can drift with ease. Also don't waste your money on the D-box, it's not nessasary. Just practice and be easy on the throttle at first.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:44 PM   #1743
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Hey guys. Drifting n00b.

I've just bought a TT01 that's had the 3 racing m-chassis conversion second hand.

The yeah racing m-chassis drift wheels that I bought turned up today so I chucked them on and took it for a spin. Not the best drifting experience unfortunately.

I've not touched the diffs since I got it. The rear diff is locked, and the front diff seems quite stiff. I'm thinking the front diff is too stiff, making the front end 'push'.

How should the front diff be set up?

I have some 3 racing m-chassis dampers coming, which should hopefully help things a bit.

I think I have other issues too. I believe it's geared too short.
I have my cars setup completely opposite from each other. One has a solid spool in the front with a diff in the rear. I like this setup for wide sweeping drifts. My other one is setup with locked rear diff and a fairly loose front diff. I prefer this setup for tracks with tight turns. This combo acts like a countersteer setup in belt drive cars where the rear wheels spin faster than the front. I would recomend the front spool setup for beginners because the rear end is more stable and doesn't try to pass the front end.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:43 PM   #1744
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ouch, this tyre more plastic than rubber. ok, i just did that, but i trimed the inside part of tyre. it can slide in, but i never thought using CA, and yes, it slide out back. Thanks for your advise
Have you tried heating the tire in water? I do this for my t-drift type hard drift tires.

- freeze wheels (really, it helps)
- boil some water
- put tires in a large dish
- pour hot water over the tires
- let sit for 3-5 minutes
- pick up tires with chop sticks and place them on frozen wheels
- use the palm of your hand (wear gloves if you're sensative) to press the tire down onto the wheel with steady pressure (don't slam your hand down)

if it's stuborn, flip it and press the wheel into the tire.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:59 AM   #1745
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Have you tried heating the tire in water? I do this for my t-drift type hard drift tires.

- freeze wheels (really, it helps)
- boil some water
- put tires in a large dish
- pour hot water over the tires
- let sit for 3-5 minutes
- pick up tires with chop sticks and place them on frozen wheels
- use the palm of your hand (wear gloves if you're sensative) to press the tire down onto the wheel with steady pressure (don't slam your hand down)

if it's stuborn, flip it and press the wheel into the tire.
Easiest way (and I have installed TONS of T-Drifts)

Coffee mug 3/4 filled with water put in microwave for 2 min.
take out of microwave -use a towel or pot holders (its hot )
put a tire in, count to 15take it out(use a chopstick or bbq skewer)
pop it on one side
the side where the tire is sticking out, put face down on a table and press on the wheel.

you are done! takes 2 min and 10 seconds (including microwaving time) Freezing the wheel has never worked for me. The amount of tires I chew through has caused my wheels to crack from the constant heating/cooling. plus the opouring of the water can splash and adjust temp when put into another bowl making the process longer. With the mug route, when the water is no longer steaming, just put in for 2 more min.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:43 AM   #1746
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How about your wife's blow dryer?
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:49 AM   #1747
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How about your wife's blow dryer?
I've found that hair dryers do not have enough heat to sufficiently expand T-drifts (I'm only referring to T-drifts now...) to mount them on wheels with an inside and outside lip (tamiya, hpi, etc.). Wheels such as speedwaypal or yokomo which do not have an internal lip are quite a bit easier to mount but sometimes require glueing so they don't slip.

I use the coffee mug method as described above. However, I've found that 2min is not long enough. I put about 10 oz. of water in an oversize mug and heat it for 5 min. I put two tires in the mug when the microwave finishes and put a large spoon in the water to hold the tires to the bottom. I set my oven timer for 3 min and when I remove the tires I roll them a bit between my hands to make sure they're pliable. If they don't feel like they've softened enough I repeat the process. I then press the tires over the wheels and also squeeze them as I'm pressing them over the inside lip to make sure they fully seat. Once I can see that they're fully on the wheel I place them in the freezer for a few minutes to cool the tire. I don't leave them in the freezer very long, maybe 5 minutes.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:43 AM   #1748
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Have you tried heating the tire in water? I do this for my t-drift type hard drift tires.

- freeze wheels (really, it helps)
- boil some water
- put tires in a large dish
- pour hot water over the tires
- let sit for 3-5 minutes
- pick up tires with chop sticks and place them on frozen wheels
- use the palm of your hand (wear gloves if you're sensative) to press the tire down onto the wheel with steady pressure (don't slam your hand down)

if it's stuborn, flip it and press the wheel into the tire.
I freeze the wheel for 30 mins, but cannot. also put the tyre immediatelly after the water boiled for 5 mins, maybe because i did not use any glove, uh uh uh (hot) but still cannot.

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pop it on one side
the side where the tire is sticking out, put face down on a table and press on the wheel.
My problem is at the one side, tyre and wheel are aligned, when the other side, wheel sticking out from the tyre so I can't push the wheel some more. when I just open the wheels and tyres from the plastic bag, actually tyre and wheels have same width, again.

Maybe you can see my attached picture, that's what happen to me

Maybe if someone have same tyre like me, you can upload the video somewhere how did you fix it in thank you bro for helping me
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:29 AM   #1749
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+1 about blow drier. Ive also tried to use a heat gun from a bodyshop, but that actually caused the plastic to melt, bubble and distort. this was at the coolest setting and about 2 feet away from the tire...
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I freeze the wheel for 30 mins, but cannot. also put the tyre immediatelly after the water boiled for 5 mins, maybe because i did not use any glove, uh uh uh (hot) but still cannot.



My problem is at the one side, tyre and wheel are aligned, when the other side, wheel sticking out from the tyre so I can't push the wheel some more. when I just open the wheels and tyres from the plastic bag, actually tyre and wheels have same width, again.

Maybe you can see my attached picture, that's what happen to me

Maybe if someone have same tyre like me, you can upload the video somewhere how did you fix it in thank you bro for helping me
ride with it like that! Stretched tire look? Take a pict of the wheel, it may just need 12* of camber to fix.
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ride with it like that! Stretched tire look? Take a pict of the wheel, it may just need 12* of camber to fix.
yes, i'll just run like that. what do you mean by "Stretched tire look?"
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Mounting T-Drift tires
  • boil water in a deep pan or one that can hold about 1 to 2 liters of water
  • once the water starts boiling, you can drop all 4 tires into it
  • leave for about 4 to 5 minutes before mounting. leave the tires in the boiling water while you work on mounting each tire
  • use kitchen tongs or whatever tool you have to remove a tire from the boiling water (never use your fingers). you need to work really fast once you take out the tire from the boiling water or it will cool down
  • place wheel on a flat surface (table or floor works for me)
  • with the wheel facing down place the tire on wheel, use a wooden board (or a towel and your palm) to press down the tire
  • once the tire is installed, cool it down with running water
  • do this for all four tires, one at a time

a household hair dryer does not work well, a heat gun is a better alternative but needs fines and some getting use to. boiling water works best, everyone can boil water!

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yes, i'll just run like that. what do you mean by "Stretched tire look?"
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Google image stretched tire. Look for "madbull" for a nice example
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Here is your stretched tire look!








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yes yes, those like my tyre
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