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Old 12-01-2011, 09:29 PM   #1711
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For cs, caster gives straight line stability, and smoothes out switchbacks. Also gives you that positive camber look.
[QUOTE=nickvig;9984612Unless you plan on doing CS drifting camber and caster don't influence the car much as the tires wear flat any camber.[/QUOTE]
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Camber and toe play a huge role. Castor, not so much. I run 40wt oil; yokomo black black springs(softest available) rear toe 3* and 0* camber in the rear, 1.5 up front.

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does anyone know where to get the parts to remove ackerman on the TA05's? (only came on the VDF's)
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does anyone know where to get the parts to remove ackerman on the TA05's? (only came on the VDF's)
Active Hobby makes a 50% steering rack for VDF's
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:33 PM   #1715
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does anyone know where to get the parts to remove ackerman on the TA05's? (only came on the VDF's)
The VDF and the TA05 (05/05R/v.2) do not use the same steering rack. The ackerman steering kit for the VDF is to add ackerman the stock VDF steering has no ackerman. AFAIK there is no kit to remove ackerman for the regular TA05.
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I should have been more specific... I meant the parts that extend the front arms. the two pieces with 3 holes each.
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Do a goggle search for Eagle Racing or Active Hobby. They make some nice upgrades for drift cars. They should have the parts your looking for.
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hope u were paying attention in Math when class was doing geometry

if u extend the knuckle arms, you will need more "throw/travel" from the rack

std TA05 tub rack barely has enough throw to max out knuckles at std length
and will only get worse when they're extended

hence VDF & VDS's rack have pivot arms that are twice as long...
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hope u were paying attention in Math when class was doing geometry

if u extend the knuckle arms, you will need more "throw/travel" from the rack

std TA05 tub rack barely has enough throw to max out knuckles at std length
and will only get worse when they're extended

hence VDF & VDS's rack have pivot arms that are twice as long...
Im working on my masters in physics... it has been a long time since basic geometry. With that legnth, there are other forces at work such as less ackerman, transition speed when coming out of a drift and even my reaction time that has to be taken into account.

I have been drifting for several(7 or so) years and I never got "into" countersteer drifting, however the dynamics of the suspension setup such as the 8* camber and using the bodyroll to cause the contact patch to expand is something I will be experimenting with.

I run a TA06 and have done minimal drifting on it. I used to own 2 different TA05's and am very familiar with the setup and impact the extended arms will have. I will only have clearance issues with the arm extenders, but nothing a spacer from tamiya wont solve.
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For 5050, you're doing more harm by getting rid of ackerman. Since you hardly have to steer, you don't even need that much lock anyway.
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For 5050, you're doing more harm by getting rid of ackerman. Since you hardly have to steer, you don't even need that much lock anyway.
so there is no real benefit in less ackerman and more castor in 50/50?
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5050 is more like rally style powersliding, so you would need ackerman for better turn in. Conventional touring car setting logic applies to 5050, but CS is completely different, it's almost counter intuitive.
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5050 is more like rally style powersliding, so you would need ackerman for better turn in. Conventional touring car setting logic applies to 5050, but CS is completely different, it's almost counter intuitive.
The additional caster (8*, as opposed to stock 4* on ta06)nothing drastic) for CS would still benefit 50/50, correct? (taking that rally/dirt perspective)
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I was hoping to find out more info on the Hot Bodies TC-FD but there is none that I can find anywhere... I really like the idea that I can set this chassis up for racing in the winter and then summer switch it over to drifting. Although it would be me alone drifting as we have none up here in TX...

Really debating about this car or the TA06 Pro and just hoping it up as I go such as VBC or Exotek chassis, etc...
The TC-FD is really a great chassis for drifting, in my experience owning the TCD and now the FD, i think the FD has better handling characteristics (handling reminds me of my old Pro-D).

there is one flaw that is quite irritating, the stock steering sucks!

here are some pics of my TC-FD ...





replaced the steering bridge to get a bit more angle ...



and with modding the arms, c-hubs and unis (55+ degrees) it could get to this ...


this was the first design implementation of the bridge.

i will just run mine as a daily drifter and gradually progress to CS with a front 39t center 12/20t and rear 32 or 30t pulley. still waiting on funds for esc and new servo, X'mas bills is pilling up! hehe
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The TC-FD is really a great chassis for drifting, in my experience owning the TCD and now the FD, i think the FD has better handling characteristics (handling reminds me of my old Pro-D).

there is one flaw that is quite irritating, the stock steering sucks!

here are some pics of my TC-FD ...





replaced the steering bridge to get a bit more angle ...



and with modding the arms, c-hubs and unis (55+ degrees) it could get to this ...


this was the first design implementation of the bridge.

i will just run mine as a daily drifter and gradually progress to CS with a front 39t center 12/20t and rear 32 or 30t pulley. still waiting on funds for esc and new servo, X'mas bills is pilling up! hehe


You may know!

But arent your drift tires mounted backwards or did you mean to mount them that way!

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