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This is a wiki page for the new and very interesting concept 4-X from Serpent. This is wiki is meant to develop and grow as more is understood about the car.

Serpent's Product Page - http://www.serpent.com/product/400030
The 4-X Development Story - Here

Manual - Here

Spring Chart
SOFTEST
  • 401705 Spring white C4.4 4X (2)
  • 401706 Spring yellow C4.9 4X (2)
  • 401707 Spring orange C5.5 4X (2) = kit
  • 401708 Spring red C6.3 4X (2)
  • 401709 Spring pink C6.9 4X (2)
  • 401710 Spring blue C7.6 4X (2)
  • 401711 Spring purple C8.4 4X (2) = kit
  • 401712 Spring greenC9.5 4X (2)
  • 401713 Spring grey C10.9 4X (2)
  • 401714 Spring black C12 4X (2)
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RCBuilds.net Build, tip guide and youtube video - http://www.rcbuilds.net/builds/onroa...nt-project-4x/
Heave + Roll Damper Build Tips
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Adjusting tweak with roll damper
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:25 AM   #226
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Is the Spur and Motor easy to remove? I'd like to try and get two classes out of the car. I'm done having a car for each class.
As most have stated...one of the easiest spurs to remove on a TC


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I'm also interested in the Serpent 4x, but I want to know what setup for tracks is like compared to Tamiya cars... is it more complicated?
I would not say it's complicated. It's just different.

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I love mine! It's 'tricky' to setup because the platform is new and there are fewer setup sheets for one to copy.

Once you get a hang of it though, the car is great.

What worries is a little now is that Team Serpent don't seem to be having much luck with the car on the intl competition level. They just did poorly in Thailand. I worry it will suffer the same fate as the SRX4 (original innovative design) and give way to the 'standard' design like the SDX4.
TITC was crazy for sure. Felix Law did awesome in 13.5 Boosted consistently being in the top 10. Stick King from Asia was up there early on as well.

I owned an Xray T4 prior to this car and it worked very well. Almost set and forget. My first packs on the 4x I could tell there was a definitive difference in handling. The 4x just handled the entry and exit of corners so much better. Why...I'm not sure, but I was more comfortable with the 4x.

Now that a lot of guys are running we are seeing more and more setups. If you are running black CRC carpet just copy one of Paul Ciccerllos/Jeff Dayger setups and you should be good to go

I'd also follow the Facebook page if you use FB. Way more Serpent users active on there.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SerpentProject4X/
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Old 02-22-2017, 09:15 AM   #227
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Picked one up! Just can't find the starter kit in the US.
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Picked one up! Just can't find the starter kit in the US.
If I get one it will be from Rcmart since they are significantly cheaper.
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If I get one it will be from Rcmart since they are significantly cheaper.
Absolute was $55 off.
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Anybody run one of these in VTA racing?
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:44 PM   #231
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Any Starter kits in the US, anyone, Bueller?
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I haven't seen one in quite a while. Get some upper and lower arms, o-rings and option springs. Everything else has been solid. To be clear, I haven't broken an arm, but it's an obvious spare to have. Maybe a pair of hubs.
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I haven't seen one in quite a while. Get some upper and lower arms, o-rings and option springs. Everything else has been solid. To be clear, I haven't broken an arm, but it's an obvious spare to have. Maybe a pair of hubs.
Which O-Rings and Springs? I'm pretty sure it's "HD Ozite Carpet" something like that. Probably will try asphalt too.

Do they make protective film anymore for chassis' or maybe a recommended spray to minimize wear/marring from asphalt?

The upper and lower arms, and hubs are all symmetrical/compatible front and rear correct? Now, I haven't looked, but are all the parts symmetrical, from left to right?
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Also, is 111oz tq./w a .13 sec. speed servo enough power for this car? I don't need a ton of speed since I seem to overreact.
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Which O-Rings and Springs? I'm pretty sure it's "HD Ozite Carpet" something like that. Probably will try asphalt too.

Do they make protective film anymore for chassis' or maybe a recommended spray to minimize wear/marring from asphalt?

The upper and lower arms, and hubs are all symmetrical/compatible front and rear correct? Now, I haven't looked, but are all the parts symmetrical, from left to right?
Look at petitrc and serpent's site for setups, plenty of examples. I'd get a couple sets of blue, pink, red and one set of green as a starter.


Protective, no ideas.

Yes, everything is symmetric.
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Which O-Rings and Springs? I'm pretty sure it's "HD Ozite Carpet" something like that. Probably will try asphalt too.

Do they make protective film anymore for chassis' or maybe a recommended spray to minimize wear/marring from asphalt?

The upper and lower arms, and hubs are all symmetrical/compatible front and rear correct? Now, I haven't looked, but are all the parts symmetrical, from left to right?
The lower and upper arms are the same front to back and left to right. The steering blocks are the same front to back but there is a left and a right on those parts. Its a great designed car

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Where can I order these parts? I can't find shops with any stock.

Also, which O-Rings, the shock O-Rings?

Did you all see my servo post? Sufficient, mediocre, weak?
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Where can I order these parts? I can't find shops with any stock.

Also, which O-Rings, the shock O-Rings?

Did you all see my servo post? Sufficient, mediocre, weak?
SerpentAmerica has some parts, more will be rolling out soon, I'm sure.

Yes, shock o-rings, it's not critical. Some also use kyosho orange x-rings.

Servo should be fine.

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SerpentAmerica has some parts, more will be rolling out soon, I'm sure.

Yes, shock o-rings, it's not critical. Some also use kyosho orange x-rings.

Servo should be fine.

You're welcome.
Haha I wasn't being rude!
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The steering blocks are the same front to back but there is a left and a right on those parts. Its a great designed car

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Where are the markings that specify left and right knuckles? I cannot find any and you have me wondering about this.
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