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Old 09-16-2003, 06:32 PM   #3901
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Allright guys. I'm looking at picking up one of those EVO 3 S's. What am I looking at doing to this thing for carpet? I've read about 20-30 pages. And I see countersinking the upper deck is nessesary for removing flex. Braces down the center. Anything else?

Also, what are the main differences between the "S" and non"S" and is there any carpet setups out there?

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I have a decent Rubber tire setup for an Evo 3 S:

Front:
Spring: Tamiya blue
Oil:60wt
Piston:3 hole
Position: outside on tower, outside on arm
swaybar:blue
ride height: 4.5mm
up travel: 3mm
camber link: outside hole, 3mm shim under it
Front One way
Put a .7mm shim under the froint suspension block

Rear:
Spring: Tamiya Blue
Oil:60wt
piston: 3 hole
position: 1 in from outside on tower, outside on arm
swaybar: blue
rideheight: 5mm
uptravel: 2mm
Camber link: middle hole with no shims, the outside hole on the hub carrier
Diff tension: med-tight
Put a 1.5 mm shim under the front suspension block and a 1.0mm shim under the rear suspension block.

Tires: Take-Off CS-27 (Works REEEEEEEALLY nice with Sorex 24Rs with hpi red inserts)
Body: Protoform Alfa 2.0
If you need some more steering use yellow swaybars.
I used TQ orange on the full width of the front and rear tires for 8min before I ran. Let me know if you need it to do something else.

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Opps! my bad. Foams on carpet.

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Old 09-16-2003, 06:45 PM   #3903
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Old 09-16-2003, 07:50 PM   #3904
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Opps! my bad. Foams on carpet.

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Haha, no prob. I haven't tried it on foams yet, but I will soon. I'm going to start out with Martin Crisp's Standard foam setup. I will report back on Friday.

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Old 09-16-2003, 11:00 PM   #3905
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The DA block setup creates something kinda like a trailing arm effect similar to a Losi's suspension geometry. This setup, in theory, would provide more steering and increase corner speed slightly. It also helps getting some of the steering back when you run a diff or spool setup. I for one, don't run this setup (got enough steering as it is ) but Difuser and MadJack, along with others, has and perhaps they can comment on it
Hmm, might have to try that next week.. Do you know where it helps the steering the most?
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Guys, I ran the car today with the TC3 diff gear, and 1 way gear, didn't strip any of them. They also mesh better than the Tamiya gears, I could get 19 secs of free-spin with the stock gears, and I got 26 with the TC3 gears Let me know if there's an interest for a how-to on this. Rocketron told me about the trick, and I believe he posted a how-to a long time ago as well.. it really works.
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Old 09-16-2003, 11:11 PM   #3907
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Guys, I ran the car today with the TC3 diff gear, and 1 way gear, didn't strip any of them. They also mesh better than the Tamiya gears, I could get 19 secs of free-spin with the stock gears, and I got 26 with the TC3 gears Let me know if there's an interest for a how-to on this. Rocketron told me about the trick, and I believe he posted a how-to a long time ago as well.. it really works.



Pls do share the how-to.
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Old 09-16-2003, 11:39 PM   #3908
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randy could you e-mail me the trick with the ae Gears

i get my evoIII on thursday
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Peter and I messed around with it on carpet before we went to Yok. It aids turn-in and you will recognose it on the Losi also they use 2-3d on the front of their car.

It is a subtle change and gives a little more turn-in without having to go to kick-up to get the aggressiveness you are looking for.
Well I'll sure give it a try then. Thanks for the input!!
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Old 09-17-2003, 08:39 AM   #3910
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* How did you guys fit in the ae diff gears?
* Is there a graphite main shaft for the TB EVO 3 SL?
* Do you find titanium stuff for the kit?
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also ...

* Are there any good setup sheets for the TB EVO 3 SL for asphalt outdoors?
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randy could you e-mail me the trick with the ae Gears

i get my evoIII on thursday
What I shared with Randman is changing both the oneway and diff gears to Associated gears. Not the pinion though...

the assoc gear is one less tooth so you really need to do both. the final drive ratio chg's to 2.6667 from 2.60 so you'll need new rollout sheets

the assoc oneway gear is an exact fit (they make 2 or 3 - maybe Randman has the part number) and the diff gear fits perfect as well. on the diff though you'll be using smaller balls
resulting in the need to ever so slightly deepen the exsisting hole in the delrin for the bearing to slide into deeper.

then last the shaft will have play for and aft - my suggestion from running this is to space the shaft forward by putting a spacer between the rear gearbox bearing and the spur gear mount. otherwise i've had the pinion slip and get cocked in the front gearbox. it doesn't hurt anything but will ruin that run...

thats it - you may want to hear what randman thinks of this change before you do it.

BUT since you haven't modified anything (really) you can and i have put the stock tamiya gears back in for TCS racing etc..

long but hopefully explained sorta OK
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I actually did the rear diff a little differently, and the front diff needs different shimming as well. I'll post a how-to with pics once I tear my car down for a rebuild (day or two)

I also played with different shimming every run in practice, so I know what works best on these gears
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I have tried a TC3 oneway gear some time ago but it didn´t fit without modifications. Diameter from inside hole is too small. It didn´t run very well also. Maybe there is an other gear from Associated working better but not the one from the TC3. It was one of the newer white gears.
If you look at the teeth of the gear they look completely different to the EVO3 onewaygear´s teeth. Maybe NTC3 gear is different to the TC3 gear but I don´t know. I know one of the TC3 factory drivers very well. I will ask him next time I meet him.

Regarding the custom oneway I got a message from the guy who´s making them. He has Paypal now so international ordering is easier.
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For the front 1 way gear, the TC3 gear for the Yokomo HD one way is the right fit.
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