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Old 01-27-2016, 06:41 AM   #106
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Inside upper link: if you add shims here you lower the roll center. Shims on the upper inside link is about 1/4 or 1/3 of the low rc adjustment = shims under the blocks.

That is the way I do it, and the car also reacts so.

It is very good and detailed explained by Martin Crisp in his app "Workbench".
Yes, thatīs what I wrote. I run less shims inside front camberlink than Eryx 3.0 = higher roll center.
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Thank you very much! I write everything on my phone or ipad and there seem to
be hard to get all the fancy parts in there. But why i post on the blog and link to it is becuse this forum dont allow me to upload from my phone. Just to ckear that up.
To be able to see my sheet you can try clicking on it or use CTRL+ + on your keyboard. Thanks again!
OK, thanks for the tip. that CTRL + tip worked great. I am used to enlarging images a different way, and my way did not work on your image. I never knew of your tip though, maybe it will help others as well. Thanks.

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Old 01-30-2016, 09:41 PM   #108
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Which chassis would you guys recommend for carpet tracks ? Or is it more of a personal preference ?
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:06 AM   #109
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Which chassis would you guys recommend for carpet tracks ? Or is it more of a personal preference ?
It seems like the 2.25mm carbon or 2mm carbon chassies is the way for carpet.
I would recomend to try 2.25mm first.
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Old 01-31-2016, 04:27 AM   #110
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For me Alu chassis for carpet. 2.25 carbon only in super high traction carpet.
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:02 PM   #111
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For me Alu chassis for carpet. 2.25 carbon only in super high traction carpet.
I heard that the 2.0mm is stiffer then the 2.25mm even tho it's thicker. So in high grip condition the new 2.0 or aluminium is the best. But i would still say that the 2.25mm is best allrounder.

I could today advance my best laptime on my nearest track by half a second! Much setup work is still needed for this car tho! Will post more on my blog this week

EDIT: i tried the setup with wider front and upsidedown 3.5 bracket f/r. This setup is recomended!!!
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:54 AM   #112
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I heard that the 2.0mm is stiffer then the 2.25mm even tho it's thicker. So in high grip condition the new 2.0 or aluminium is the best. But i would still say that the 2.25mm is best allrounder.

I could today advance my best laptime on my nearest track by half a second! Much setup work is still needed for this car tho! Will post more on my blog this week

EDIT: i tried the setup with wider front and upsidedown 3.5 bracket f/r. This setup is recomended!!!
The 2.0 carbon is harder because of the weave of the carbon itself. Every time I've ever tried the 2.0 carbon chassis I've ended up with massive under steer.
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Which manufacturer are the best spur and pinion gears to use for the 3.0 and 4.0?
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I use Serpent spur gears and Arrowmax pinions.
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The 2.0 carbon is harder because of the weave of the carbon itself. Every time I've ever tried the 2.0 carbon chassis I've ended up with massive under steer.
Thing is, if you drive on high grip carpets, stiffer is faster. You got to make setup changes to make the car roll and get more steering, Marc Fischer used 5.5mm shims in the upper link arms to get much roll with the new 2.0mm chassies.
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Thing is, if you drive on high grip carpets, stiffer is faster. You got to make setup changes to make the car roll and get more steering, Marc Fischer used 5.5mm shims in the upper link arms to get much roll with the new 2.0mm chassies.
Um, no.
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Which chassis would you guys recommend for carpet tracks ? Or is it more of a personal preference ?
Alu! It is much easier to drive, it will make you faster in 5min.
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:19 AM   #118
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I use Serpent spur gears and Arrowmax pinions.
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Um, no.
Ok then, can you explain this setup sheet?
http://site.petitrc.com/reglages/ser...gwy2016012324/
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Ok then, can you explain this setup sheet?
http://site.petitrc.com/reglages/ser...gwy2016012324/
Very high grip at that track so lower roll centers prevent traction roll. Actually, a soft chassis is a way to go in high grip situations because a stiff chassis rolls less to a certain point and then it tips over.
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