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Old 10-21-2015, 07:19 AM   #166
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The "mulsanne" should be legal, according to these rules. It is modelled after a real racecar. If HPI's Porsche GT1 is legal, how do you deny the Mulsanne?
where in the rules does it say that it had to be a real race car? There are plenty of bodies on the list that weren't "race cars".

and nevermind the fact that the mulsanne is an LMP body, the reason it is not even considered or worth arguing its legality, is that it is discontinued and you cannot buy one.
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:57 AM   #167
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The 8c is NOT a race car, and should therefore be disallowed. The Sophia never met the rules for the original WGT class, and should be banned from GTR as well.
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To answer question about WGT body rules...this was from the 2009 WGT Rules Sheet dated 8/10/2009



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This isn't WGT, but World GT-R. Totally different body rules.
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Old 10-21-2015, 03:22 PM   #170
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Default WGT-R body list (from P1 of this thread)

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Approved Body list:

- Any body currently on the USVTA approved body list
- Protoform 1543-00 Cadillac ATS-V.R
- Protoform 1544-30 Chevy Camaro Z28
- Protoform 1532-30 Chevy Camaro ZL1
- Protoform 1542-30 PFM-10
- McCallister 307 MX Stang GT
- McCallister 233 Lexus IS
- McCallister 211 Jaguar XKR
- McCallister 282 Mercedes DTM
- HPI Racing 103886 Nissan 350z Hankook
- HPI Racing 106108 2011 Ford Mustang
- HPI Racing 106940 2011 Scion TC
- HPI Racing 108064 Scion FR-S
- HPI Racing 108370 2012 Porsche 911 GT3
- HPI Racing 109385 Nissan S13
- HPI Racing 109930 1969 Ford Mustang
- HPI Racing 17502 De Tomaso Pantera
- HPI Racing 17503 Chevrolet Corvette C6
- HPI Racing 17504 Ford Mustang GT-R
- HPI Racing 17505 Subaru Impreza WRC
- HPI Racing 17506 2004 Honda S2000
- HPI Racing 17515 Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R
- HPI Racing 17518 Nissan 350z Greddy
- HPI Racing 17524 Vertex Ridge Toyota Soarer
- HPI Racing 17525 Prova HPI Impreza
- HPI Racing 17526 1967 Chevrolet Corvette
- HPI Racing 17527 Porsche 911 Turbo
- HPI Racing 17530 Nissan Silvia
- HPI Racing 17537 Saleen Limited Edition
- HPI Racing 17538 Nissan GT-R (R35)
- HPI Racing 17539 Toyota Supra Aero
- HPI Racing 17540 BMW M3 E30
- HPI Racing 17541 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
- HPI Racing 17542 Lexus IS F
- HPI Racing 17543 2010 Chevy Caramo
- HPI Racing 17544 Alfa Romeo 8C
- HPI Racing 17548 BMW M3 GT2
- HPI Racing 30717 Weld JZX100 Toyota Mark II
- HPI Racing 30721 T&E Vertex Ridge JZX100 Toyota
- HPI Racing 30727 Weld X HPI Racing JZX100 Toyota
- HPI Racing 30730 Lexus LS430
- HPI Racing 30732 Lexus LS460
- HPI Racing 7038 Porsche 911 GT1
- HPI Racing 7039 Chevrolet Corvette
- HPI Racing 7049 Subaru Impreza WRC 98
- HPI Racing 7409 Nissan Skyline R34 25GT
- HPI Racing 7418 Porsche 911 GT3
- HPI Racing 7419 Dodge Viper GTS-R
- HPI Racing 7424 Toyota Supra
- HPI Racing 7427 Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R
- HPI Racing 7431 Mitsubishi Eclipse
- HPI Racing 7435 Porsche 911 Turbo
- HPI Racing 7438 Honda Civic Coupe SI
- HPI Racing 7440 Toyota Celica
- HPI Racing 7447 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
- HPI Racing 7448 Mitsubishi Lancer
- HPI Racing 7449 Honda Prelude
- HPI Racing 7450 BMW M5
- HPI Racing 7452 BMW M3 GT
- HPI Racing 7455 Lexus GS400
- HPI Racing 7458 Subaru Impreza WRC 2001
- HPI Racing 7460 Chevrolet Camaro SS
- HPI Racing 7466 Toyota MR-S GT
- HPI Racing 7467 Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R
- HPI Racing 7473 2003 Dodge GTS-R
- HPI Racing 7475 Acura RSX
- HPI Racing 7478 Lexus LS430
- HPI Racing 7479 Nissan Silvia GT
- HPI Racing 7482 Mazda RX-7
- HPI Racing 7485 Nissan 350z Nismo GT
- HPI Racing 7486 Toyota Supra GT
- HPI Racing 7487 Porsche Carrera GT
- HPI Racing 7488 Mazda RX-8
- HPI Racing 7495 Ford GT
- HPI Racing 7499 HPI Racing Impreza
- Tamiya 51450 Raybrig Honda HSV-010
- Tamiya 51200 Xanavi NISMO GT-R
- Tamiya 51195 Raybrig NSX 2004
- Delta Plastik 0034 Subaru
- Delta Plastik 0037 Porsche 911
- Delta Plastik 0040 F50
- Delta Plastik 0049 Viper
- Delta Plastik 0050 Lotus Elise
- Delta Plastik 0052 CLK
- Delta Plastik 0055 Ferrari Enzo
- Delta Plastik 0056 Diablo
- Delta Plastik 0058 BMW M Coupe
- Delta Plastik 0402 Panoz Esp. GTR-1
- Delta Plastik 0405 Mustang
- Delta Plastik 0417 Ferrari F355 Challenge
As shown on P1 of this thread, THIS is the WGT-R body list.
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:49 AM   #171
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As shown on P1 of this thread, THIS is the WGT-R body list.
And if I remember w/o going back to the beginning of this thread...the WGT-R bodies "DO NOT INCLUDE" the bodies on the WGT list... (which I like) - now we just need a different name, because it sounds like a lot of people are confused (they think WGT-R is simply WGT on Rubber Tires.)

My buddy picked up and set of tires from TQRC so I'll get to see them 1st hand shortly - we've got a couple different track types we'd like to do testing on (Including a banked concrete oval and a flat asphalt road course)
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Old 10-22-2015, 05:29 AM   #172
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I had a chance to run some laps with a fellow racer's car last weekend and think this can turn out to be a very good class. Truthfully, I had low expectations as my last experience with a 200mm pan car was on foams and that car was dialed in pretty good. The rubber tires did not diminish the experience at all. The car didn't feel the same as a foam car but on the other hand it didn't have any stupid handling characteristics either. Good luck with the class. Based on the dozen other threads started in the last month bemoaning the lack of a lower cost, easy to set up and drive car, this could be a great addition.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:31 AM   #173
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agreed. this is the easiest car to drive that i have ever owned.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:01 PM   #174
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They are easy to set up and fun to drive, no more cutting down foam and readjusting ride heights. Tires should last a whole season.
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:23 PM   #175
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So, from the posts in this thread it sounded "quick and easy" to convert over to the rubber tires. A few shims, and your good to go....not exactly the case. This is the steps I took to convert my 10LE to use rubber tires.

1. With the standard "non-slider" rear pod, even with the #3 ride height inserts, you will still need to lower the chassis to get the min 5mm clearance. You can use washers, cut a bottom plate, or make a spacer out of fiberglass or other material you may have around. Keep in mind what ever size spacer you use, you will need to duplicate that same height above the center red hex standoff. I ended up using a few CRC red spacers.

2. The inside diameter of the front rims are smaller than the foam. If you are using the stock graphite steering arm, you will need to grind it down to clear the rims or purchase the 1/12th version. Another solution would be to place the axel in the "trailing" position, and them move the front end plate to the forward position. This will keep the center of the wheels in the same location, however it may change the "feel" of your car. I opted to use the 1/12th steering arms.

3. You will need to make sure the king pin is as short as possible. If they are "long" they will rub the rims.

4. I used another front plat to get the desired ride hight.

so their you have it... a few things you have to do in order to get gong with rubber tires.... it is definitely not a simple "bolt on".... enjoy
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So, from the posts in this thread it sounded "quick and easy" to convert over to the rubber tires. A few shims, and your good to go....not exactly the case. This is the steps I took to convert my 10LE to use rubber tires.

1. With the standard "non-slider" rear pod, even with the #3 ride height inserts, you will still need to lower the chassis to get the min 5mm clearance. You can use washers, cut a bottom plate, or make a spacer out of fiberglass or other material you may have around. Keep in mind what ever size spacer you use, you will need to duplicate that same height above the center red hex standoff. I ended up using a few CRC red spacers.

2. The inside diameter of the front rims are smaller than the foam. If you are using the stock graphite steering arm, you will need to grind it down to clear the rims or purchase the 1/12th version. Another solution would be to place the axel in the "trailing" position, and them move the front end plate to the forward position. This will keep the center of the wheels in the same location, however it may change the "feel" of your car. I opted to use the 1/12th steering arms.

3. You will need to make sure the king pin is as short as possible. If they are "long" they will rub the rims.

4. I used another front plat to get the desired ride hight.

so their you have it... a few things you have to do in order to get gong with rubber tires.... it is definitely not a simple "bolt on".... enjoy
1. Like we have said, if you use #3.75 up, a thin shim under the pod and you are done. We have a bunch of cars here running that way.

2. For road course, we are all running trailing axles, short wheelbase.

3. FAR from as short as possible. We are running .586-.596 kingpin length. This is actually longer than we were running on foam.

4. You can use another plate if you have one. We use a #3218 and a #3219 shim on each screw of the front end plate along with now using 1/2" screws. Total cost to convert a foam car to rubber, $10. I have personally converted about 20 cars here, and they are all done the same.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:33 AM   #177
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WGT-R, the fastest growing class at the US Indoor Champs. Only 2 more slots open for free tires. With the CRC crew added in the mix we should easily be down to the C Main.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:04 PM   #178
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A lot of these bodies are designed for TC's how well do some of the fit a WGT pan car and anyone know from person experience which bodies might fit better than others?

Also besides the body and rubber tires what other differences set WGT-R apart from WGT???
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:51 PM   #179
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I have the HPI RX-7 and the Silvia, both cars look/fit good in my opinion. One of the guys I race with uses the Tamiya Raybrig and his car looks sharp.
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Old 10-24-2015, 04:50 PM   #180
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Most of the bodies fit just fine- Porsche GT1. Vette,Supra , Vipers from Hpi tested. Protoform PF10,Camaro Z1 and Z28 tested.
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