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NEW FOR 2017 - MC2!

MOTIV M-Code motors, now MC2 for 2017, come pre-set to perform well in most applications. Each MOTIV M-Code motor comes with a specification check list specific to that individual motor. All MOTIV M-Code spec motors come standard with the new "S-HIGH" rotor. If you prefer a different rotor, please send an email via the "Contact Us" page on the Motiv site and reference your order.

Motiv dealers in the U.S. that have received MC2s are:

ProLevel RC
Fordham Hobbies
Lefthander RC
TQ RC Racing
Activ RC
Gripworks RC
Stormer Hobbies
AMain Hobbies
NorCal Hobbies

& More - Check your local hobby shop!

“Defy” Series Pro Li-Po battery weights

“Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 65c+ - 215 grams
“Thin Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 3900mah, 65c+ - 159 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 60c+ - 258 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 6000mah, 90c+ - 311 grams

Following are some suggested starting points for the MC2 line of motors for each class (we will update/add to this as often as possible). One key piece to pay attention to when adjusting your motor is Amp Draw. Try to keep spec motors around 3.0.

25.5 F1
FDR: 2.9-3.2
Timing: 42-45* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

25.5 USVTA
FDR: 3.6-3.9
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

21.5 USGT
FDR: 3.9-4.1
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.1-4.4
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 3.8-4.0
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 1/12
Rollout: 83-85mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.7-4.9
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 4.4-4.6
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 1/12
Rollout: 78-80mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

WGTR
Rollout: 73mm
Timing: 46
Rotor: S-MID for larger tracks. S-HIGH for smaller tracks, or tracks with black carpet.

17.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 5.85-6.0
Timing: 45-48*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 2WD SC & Stadium Truck
FDR: 7.5-7.8
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 4WD Buggy
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

Following are starting points for Mod motors in the MC1 line

7.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 10.2
Timing: @ 28*
Rotor: M-MID
Fan: Optional

5.5 TC
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: @ 30*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

4.5 TC
FDR: 7.6-7.8
Timing: @ 20*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

Every MOTIV Motor is hand checked, assembled and packaged by a professional in house at our WI, USA office. During this process every motor component must meet MOTIV requirements before assembly and packaging. Included is a specification check list which is filled out on a motor to motor basis all through the testing and assembly process to ensure the quality of our finished product


How its Made: Motiv RC Brushless Motor assembly w/ Paul Lemieux

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Old 10-17-2015, 09:26 PM   #61
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I just tore down the motor for a good cleaning. I was really impressed by the sensor board. Aluminum and it holds the bearing. Great design and definitely quality workmanship. Nice job Paul. No corners cut making this motor.
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For those interested: This past weekend I did some back to back testing with the Motiv and D4 17.5's. I ran almost identical lap times with the two motors (Motiv was faster by 0.02), but the Motiv felt stronger towards the end of the run with little to no drop-off in power. This was with the optional high torque rotor. Very smooth power band!

Up next is Stock Wars at MRH this coming week, and more testing will be done. I know that Craig Xavier, Robbie Dodge, Paul, and myself will be running this motor among others.
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Congrats Paul and Sam... Titanium screws available for this motor ??? What are the screw sizes for this motor, sensor board screws and long can screws ???
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Congratulations to Paul and to Sam Isaacs who used a Motiv M-Code to TQ 17.5 TC at the Halloween Classic this past weekend at The Gate. Sam found some unfortunate luck in the main but was able to bring it home 2nd. Sam also used a Motiv M-Code in 13.5 TC to qualify and place 2nd in what was a close battle all weekend long.

After speaking with Paul and Sam yesterday, they are both very pleased with the result and feel that the spec motor program is coming around really well. Next event coming up is Stock Wars on October 23-25 in Middle River, MD. Thanks to Paul and Motiv for being the title sponsor for this event! http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-wars-mrh.html
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:32 PM   #64
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does the motiv motors have temp sensors built in, so i can check the temps through my Vortex/M12 telemetry?
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Thought I would share what people were doing over the weekend at Stock Wars (posted from the Motiv FB page)

1/12:



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USGT:

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Was Paul using the standard rotor in 17.5?
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Was Paul using the standard rotor in 17.5?
I would guess no since the 1/2 shows the optional rotor and tc 17.5 does not.
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I would guess no since the 1/2 shows the optional rotor and tc 17.5 does not.
I assumed that if we was running an option rotor, that it would be noted, but just want to make sure.
I got my D41S up to 221degrees on Sunday (forgot to change the gearing after the Penticton WCICS event). With that said, I might order a Motiv 17.5 from you if the D4 is indeed injured.
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I assumed that if we was running an option rotor, that it would be noted, but just want to make sure.
I got my D41S up to 221degrees on Sunday (forgot to change the gearing after the Penticton WCICS event). With that said, I might order a Motiv 17.5 from you if the D4 is indeed injured.
Two more left in stock.
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Two more left in stock.
I'll know the status of my D4 tomorrow night after practice.
I don't think the D41s gives up anything to the Motiv as far as speed/power is concerned, but the Motiv looks to be more driveable. ..smoother down low. The D4 is more of an on/off switch out of the tight corners.
Also, looking at the Motiv, it looks like the stator is positioned close to the front of the motor. Would be good for weight centralization in the car.
I hope Paul gets the 10.5 on the ROAR list. My WGT car is lacking power big time with the killshot. :/
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Paul ran the high torque rotor, as did I. Not quite sure about Craig or Robbie. I timed at 50 and geared at 4.05 and the car had great rip and top end.
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My 1/12 was profiled but in TC and USGT I ran 50 degrees in both with a 4.16 FDR for 17.5 and 3.86 FDR in USGT. Great power all weekend, I can't thank Paul enough.

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My 1/12 motor was wicked good again. Qualifying hot lap was all I had this time...
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What were some of the temps you guys were seeing? I notice between Paul's and Drew's rides the fans are mounted on opposite sides of the motor. Does one work better at cooling it than the other?
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What esc is that in Paul's car ?
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