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NEW FOR 2017 - MC2!

MOTIV M-Code motors, now MC2 for 2017, come pre-set to perform well in most applications. Each MOTIV M-Code motor comes with a specification check list specific to that individual motor. All MOTIV M-Code spec motors come standard with the new "S-HIGH" rotor. If you prefer a different rotor, please send an email via the "Contact Us" page on the Motiv site and reference your order.

Motiv dealers in the U.S. that have received MC2s are:

ProLevel RC
Fordham Hobbies
Lefthander RC
TQ RC Racing
Activ RC
Gripworks RC
Stormer Hobbies
AMain Hobbies
NorCal Hobbies

& More - Check your local hobby shop!

“Defy” Series Pro Li-Po battery weights

“Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 65c+ - 215 grams
“Thin Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 3900mah, 65c+ - 159 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 60c+ - 258 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 6000mah, 90c+ - 311 grams

Following are some suggested starting points for the MC2 line of motors for each class (we will update/add to this as often as possible). One key piece to pay attention to when adjusting your motor is Amp Draw. Try to keep spec motors around 3.0.

25.5 F1
FDR: 2.9-3.2
Timing: 42-45* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

25.5 USVTA
FDR: 3.6-3.9
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

21.5 USGT
FDR: 3.9-4.1
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.1-4.4
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 3.8-4.0
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 1/12
Rollout: 83-85mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.7-4.9
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 4.4-4.6
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 1/12
Rollout: 78-80mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

WGTR
Rollout: 73mm
Timing: 46
Rotor: S-MID for larger tracks. S-HIGH for smaller tracks, or tracks with black carpet.

17.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 5.85-6.0
Timing: 45-48*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 2WD SC & Stadium Truck
FDR: 7.5-7.8
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 4WD Buggy
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

Following are starting points for Mod motors in the MC1 line

7.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 10.2
Timing: @ 28*
Rotor: M-MID
Fan: Optional

5.5 TC
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: @ 30*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

4.5 TC
FDR: 7.6-7.8
Timing: @ 20*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

Every MOTIV Motor is hand checked, assembled and packaged by a professional in house at our WI, USA office. During this process every motor component must meet MOTIV requirements before assembly and packaging. Included is a specification check list which is filled out on a motor to motor basis all through the testing and assembly process to ensure the quality of our finished product


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Old 04-10-2017, 03:01 PM   #571
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All S-high rotor are interchangeable between MC1 and MC2 motor?
I would assume they are compatible as roar's motor approval shows the same part number for the MOV1310 S-MID rotor for both the MC1 and MC2. Although, there appears to be only one rotor listed for the MC1, which means any other rotor used in an MC1 would technically be illegal. But fitment looks ok.
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I would assume they are compatible as roar's motor approval shows the same part number for the MOV1310 S-MID rotor for both the MC1 and MC2. Although, there appears to be only one rotor listed for the MC1, which means any other rotor used in an MC1 would technically be illegal. But fitment looks ok.
I didnt know that
O well no big deal...give me more reason to buy new motor...
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Paul had said in a email I got got from him about rotors that that stock class rotors are interchangeable from the two motors and are still legal.
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Paul had said in a email I got got from him about rotors that that stock class rotors are interchangeable from the two motors and are still legal.

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Paul had said in a email I got got from him about rotors that that stock class rotors are interchangeable from the two motors and are still legal.
I think the ultimate problem is how would a track know that? They can only go off the approval list, which is not updated to reflect Paul's email. Not trying to be a pain, but I think this is a shortcoming of roar's approval process. A track can only go off of what is listed on roar's approval page.
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I think the ultimate problem is how would a track know that? They can only go off the approval list, which is not updated to reflect Paul's email. Not trying to be a pain, but I think this is a shortcoming of roar's approval process. A track can only go off of what is listed on roar's approval page.
Mike your right but
It is common sense..you cant buy MC1 rotor or motor online...
I am sure Roar will be updated
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It is common sense..you cant buy MC1 rotor or motor online...
I agree. But just because you can't buy something anymore doesn't necessarily mean everything you attach to it is legal. Go ahead, ask me how I know...hahahaha.

Honestly, I can't see anyone caring what rotor you use in that thing. It's all good.
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I agree. But just because you can't buy something anymore doesn't necessarily mean everything you attach to it is legal. Go ahead, ask me how I know...hahahaha.

Honestly, I can't see anyone caring what rotor you use in that thing. It's all good.
well hold on buddy
I just wanted to updated the legal rotor for 17.5....I was thinking the latest legal rotor for 17.5 should be good.....
btw it like buying hop up for your TC no difference
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17.5-Motiv RC-M-Code 2-MOV1070525-01/10/2017+(listed option rotors) OEM w/MOV1330 S-HIGH(12.5) rotor.

Can also use MOV1305 S-LOW(12.5), MOV1310 S-MID(12.5), MOV1315 S-HIGH(12.5) and MOV1300 S 12.3(12.3) or MOV1301 S 12.3(12.3) rotors.

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I agree. But just because you can't buy something anymore doesn't necessarily mean everything you attach to it is legal. Go ahead, ask me how I know...hahahaha.

Honestly, I can't see anyone caring what rotor you use in that thing. It's all good.
The difference between a "stock" and "mod" rotor is the diameter of the core that they sinter the magnets to. If you ever noticed there is extra "overhang" off the rotor beyond the magnet area that is still a larger diameter than the bearing inside diameter. This allows a tech inspector to verify the "core" of the magnet portion is large enough. If it were smaller then whatever spec is, I hate getting old, you would gain additional magnet area. So a stock rotor is a stock rotor whenever it was made.

See page 47 of the ROAR rulebook
Also note motor/rotor does require approval from ROAR for a ROAR event (if you actually go to those)

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The difference between a "stock" and "mod" rotor is the diameter of the core that they sinter the magnets to. If you ever noticed there is extra "overhang" off the rotor beyond the magnet area that is still a larger diameter than the bearing inside diameter. This allows a tech inspector to verify the "core" of the magnet portion is large enough. If it were smaller then whatever spec is, I hate getting old, you would gain additional magnet area. So a stock rotor is a stock rotor whenever it was made.

See page 47 of the ROAR rulebook
Also note motor/rotor does require approval from ROAR for a ROAR event (if you actually go to those)
I was reading this, which I read to be a little more strict and would also be noted if it was submitted later. Third sentence being the key.

8.5.3 Motor Manufacturers are offering optional or tuning rotors for brushless motors.
Many of these rotors may not be approved products for use in ROAR
sanctioned events. The only rotors ROAR Approved for any BL motor, are the
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I was reading this, which I read to be a little more strict and would also be noted if it was submitted later. Third sentence being the key.

8.5.3 Motor Manufacturers are offering optional or tuning rotors for brushless motors.
Many of these rotors may not be approved products for use in ROAR
sanctioned events. The only rotors ROAR Approved for any BL motor, are the
one(s) submitted during the original motor approval process.
Importers/Manufacturers may include any Option/Tuning Rotors for inspection
and listing, when motor samples are submitted, or they can submit at a later
date for inclusion.
Agreed, I read this to mean only approved at the time rotors are legal at ROAR events. It is possible I am misunderstanding the wording....
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Yeah, I read it as, the rotors are approved when the motor is originally submitted. More rotors can be submitted later and an inclusion granted. But I would have to assume the motor approval post would be updated to reflect the new rotors being used.

That's why I think you can get into some trouble throwing in an approved rotor for a later motor into a previous version motor. But only Roar truly knows the rule here. I was just speaking about club racing tracks that are trying to verify if a rotor/motor combo is legal...the only way they would know is if the rotor is listed on the motor approval page. In the case of the MC1...it is not.
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can't wait to try my new 13.5 in my wheeler. look at those numbers!

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Wow!! It's amazing what Motiv is doing at this pricepoint.truly amazing
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