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NEW FOR 2017 - MC2!

MOTIV M-Code motors, now MC2 for 2017, come pre-set to perform well in most applications. Each MOTIV M-Code motor comes with a specification check list specific to that individual motor. All MOTIV M-Code spec motors come standard with the new "S-HIGH" rotor. If you prefer a different rotor, please send an email via the "Contact Us" page on the Motiv site and reference your order.

Motiv dealers in the U.S. that have received MC2s are:

ProLevel RC
Fordham Hobbies
Lefthander RC
TQ RC Racing
Activ RC
Gripworks RC
Stormer Hobbies
AMain Hobbies
NorCal Hobbies

& More - Check your local hobby shop!

“Defy” Series Pro Li-Po battery weights

“Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 65c+ - 215 grams
“Thin Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 3900mah, 65c+ - 159 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 60c+ - 258 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 6000mah, 90c+ - 311 grams

Following are some suggested starting points for the MC2 line of motors for each class (we will update/add to this as often as possible). One key piece to pay attention to when adjusting your motor is Amp Draw. Try to keep spec motors around 3.0.

25.5 F1
FDR: 2.9-3.2
Timing: 42-45* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

25.5 USVTA
FDR: 3.6-3.9
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

21.5 USGT
FDR: 3.9-4.1
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.1-4.4
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 3.8-4.0
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 1/12
Rollout: 83-85mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.7-4.9
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 4.4-4.6
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 1/12
Rollout: 78-80mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

WGTR
Rollout: 73mm
Timing: 46
Rotor: S-MID for larger tracks. S-HIGH for smaller tracks, or tracks with black carpet.

17.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 5.85-6.0
Timing: 45-48*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 2WD SC & Stadium Truck
FDR: 7.5-7.8
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 4WD Buggy
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

Following are starting points for Mod motors in the MC1 line

7.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 10.2
Timing: @ 28*
Rotor: M-MID
Fan: Optional

5.5 TC
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: @ 30*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

4.5 TC
FDR: 7.6-7.8
Timing: @ 20*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

Every MOTIV Motor is hand checked, assembled and packaged by a professional in house at our WI, USA office. During this process every motor component must meet MOTIV requirements before assembly and packaging. Included is a specification check list which is filled out on a motor to motor basis all through the testing and assembly process to ensure the quality of our finished product


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Old 03-11-2017, 07:27 PM   #511
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Is the Wiki page updated to the new MC2 as far as timing and FDR's?
In which class are you referring to? The timing we've found may differ from the can numbers the motor is sent with. Depends on track layout and size.
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Robbie or Paul should be able to update the wiki for MC2's Im sure after the Carpet Nats it will be taken care of.
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Couldn't find an off-road thread. Hoping Some of you run off-road. You're a more technical bunch anyhow so should have the answers... what gearing for 17.5 2wd buggy at a medium sized medium bite track? Is the mc2 geared like a short stack? Non short stacks at my track are geared around 69/30 or 72/30-32. Ocrc where the Reedy race was.. Thx!!!

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Unfortunately I was unable to attend Carpet Nats. I have an idea on what we ran for most classes at Snowbirds, and I heard a little info on gearing for 17.5 TC at Nats. I am waiting on confirmation but should have info for the following classes hopefully this week:

25.5 F1

25.5 USVTA

21.5 USGT

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)

17.5 1/12

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)

13.5 1/12

WGTR

I don't know much for offroad. There is some info posted in the wikipost above for 2WD buggy. This may be a decent starting point, but I think you may consider dropping the timing 2* and the gear by maybe a tooth. All MC2s come standard with the HIGH rotor at this time.
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What are the differences between the original MC vs the MC2? I looked several pages back and on the website for the info, but I found nothing. I do run a 17.5T MC in my B6D. It is awesome! Best motor I have had. What are the MC2 upgrades?
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What are the differences between the original MC vs the MC2? I looked several pages back and on the website for the info, but I found nothing. I do run a 17.5T MC in my B6D. It is awesome! Best motor I have had. What are the MC2 upgrades?
The MC2 weighs less, has lower resistance and a much stronger rotor.
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Unfortunately I was unable to attend Carpet Nats. I have an idea on what we ran for most classes at Snowbirds, and I heard a little info on gearing for 17.5 TC at Nats. I am waiting on confirmation but should have info for the following classes hopefully this week:

25.5 F1

25.5 USVTA

21.5 USGT

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)

17.5 1/12

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)

13.5 1/12

WGTR

I don't know much for offroad. There is some info posted in the wikipost above for 2WD buggy. This may be a decent starting point, but I think you may consider dropping the timing 2* and the gear by maybe a tooth. All MC2s come standard with the HIGH rotor at this time.
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How does one order a 13.5t motor? Is there a backorder process? Thx
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How does one order a 13.5t motor? Is there a backorder process? Thx
For now I think our best practice for backordering is going to be to either call (262) 744-2052 or submit an email through the Motiv site: Contact Us | Motiv - Brushless RC Motors & RC Lipo Batteries

I would suggest specifying what class the motor is for, ie., TC, 1/12, 4wd buggy, etc.
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Just got a new MC2 ordered and on the way for 17.5 TC. I'm assuming that leaving the timing as-is from Motiv will be best and gear it around 3.8 for medium size carpet track?
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Just got a new MC2 ordered and on the way for 17.5 TC. I'm assuming that leaving the timing as-is from Motiv will be best and gear it around 3.8 for medium size carpet track?
I would leave the timing where it is and gear around 4.3-4.4. I am geared at 4.4 on an 80x36 track.
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I would leave the timing where it is and gear around 4.3-4.4. I am geared at 4.4 on an 80x36 track.
Thanks a lot!!! These things really like RPMs I take it.
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Thanks a lot!!! These things really like RPMs I take it.
Yeah they spin pretty fast. Also, your motor may not be set optimally on the timing board. Check the sheet that came with your motor and it will tell you what it's set to. If (and only if) you have a motor checker you can adjust this to somewhere around 46-48, and that should be pretty good for TC. The reason I say to use the checker is because the numbers on the can aren't always exactly accurate.

I'm running on a 60ft straight more often than not and I'm geared at a 4.7 with that timing.
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I'm running 86mm rollout on a 90'x40' for 12th with the 17.5 mc2 at 44* timing. Stays strong through the run. About .4 to .5 fade from start to finish.
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