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NEW FOR 2017 - MC2!

MOTIV M-Code motors, now MC2 for 2017, come pre-set to perform well in most applications. Each MOTIV M-Code motor comes with a specification check list specific to that individual motor. All MOTIV M-Code spec motors come standard with the new "S-HIGH" rotor. If you prefer a different rotor, please send an email via the "Contact Us" page on the Motiv site and reference your order.

Motiv dealers in the U.S. that have received MC2s are:

ProLevel RC
Fordham Hobbies
Lefthander RC
TQ RC Racing
Activ RC
Gripworks RC
Stormer Hobbies
AMain Hobbies
NorCal Hobbies

& More - Check your local hobby shop!

“Defy” Series Pro Li-Po battery weights

“Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 65c+ - 215 grams
“Thin Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 3900mah, 65c+ - 159 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 60c+ - 258 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 6000mah, 90c+ - 311 grams

Following are some suggested starting points for the MC2 line of motors for each class (we will update/add to this as often as possible). One key piece to pay attention to when adjusting your motor is Amp Draw. Try to keep spec motors around 3.0.

25.5 F1
FDR: 2.9-3.2
Timing: 42-45* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

25.5 USVTA
FDR: 3.6-3.9
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

21.5 USGT
FDR: 3.9-4.1
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.1-4.4
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 3.8-4.0
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 1/12
Rollout: 83-85mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.7-4.9
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 4.4-4.6
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 1/12
Rollout: 78-80mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

WGTR
Rollout: 73mm
Timing: 46
Rotor: S-MID for larger tracks. S-HIGH for smaller tracks, or tracks with black carpet.

17.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 5.85-6.0
Timing: 45-48*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 2WD SC & Stadium Truck
FDR: 7.5-7.8
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 4WD Buggy
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

Following are starting points for Mod motors in the MC1 line

7.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 10.2
Timing: @ 28*
Rotor: M-MID
Fan: Optional

5.5 TC
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: @ 30*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

4.5 TC
FDR: 7.6-7.8
Timing: @ 20*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

Every MOTIV Motor is hand checked, assembled and packaged by a professional in house at our WI, USA office. During this process every motor component must meet MOTIV requirements before assembly and packaging. Included is a specification check list which is filled out on a motor to motor basis all through the testing and assembly process to ensure the quality of our finished product


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Old 08-07-2015, 12:45 PM   #31
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I just placed a order for a 13.5 and 17.5 . Do I gear this motor like a trinity short stack ? I will be running at Tamiya race track .
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:05 PM   #32
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Hi guys. We still run boosted classes in South Africa. We tested the motor and found that we need to take the can timing all the way down to 20deg to make it work in the boosted classes. Has anyone tried these motors in boosted?. Any idea what gearing will suit these motors. ? Any info will help.
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For boosted typically I have found 10-15 deg can timing to work best with a 12.3mm broad powerband rotor.

13.5T boosted gearing anywhere from 6.2-7.5:1 depending on the track and rotor.
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For boosted typically I have found 10-15 deg can timing to work best with a 12.3mm broad powerband rotor.

13.5T boosted gearing anywhere from 6.2-7.5:1 depending on the track and rotor.
Thanks for the info. We received the motors with the 12.5 rotors. Any idea for gearing? We will try the can between 10 and 15. Our initial test we got it working better when we took the can from 40 down to 20. So the can on 10- 15 makes sense. We will try it again . We are running orca esc's.
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Thanks for the info. We received the motors with the 12.5 rotors. Any idea for gearing? We will try the can between 10 and 15. Our initial test we got it working better when we took the can from 40 down to 20. So the can on 10- 15 makes sense. We will try it again . We are running orca esc's.
At my home track switching from 12.3mm broad power band to 12.5mm HT rotor I dropped the FDR by 0.4 and reduced the can timing from 15 to 10 and reduced turbo timing from 17 to 12 deg.

I would try and get a 12.3mm rotor if you can.
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Just wanted to thank Motiv for an excellent 13.5 & 1S pack for my Rebel 1/12th
Really like the powerband it delivers from beginning to end of each qual TQ'd the last 2 races & look forward to testing a 17.5 version
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I ran the M-Code 21.5 today in USGT and was very impressed. At Ho-B Max in Durham, NC we run qualifiers with straight starts... so every qual has all racers running against the same clock. I was unfortunate and started last for the first qual. When the tone went off, it was like a rocket... I passed two cars on the straight right off the bat and quickly got up front. Set TQ the first round... made some mistakes in the 2nd round and TQ was no more. I did win the 3rd round but missed out on TQ. Ended up winning the main after an amazing back and forth showdown... so much fun! I left the timing as it was when I got it... I figured Paul's settings had to be close and they were. Very impressed and I wish I could tell you what temp but whenever I pulled off... it couldn't have been more than 110*..... wasn't even warm to the touch!!! As others have said, great powerband on this motor!! Can't wait to race again!!! Thanks Motiv and Paul!!
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This past weekend I raced the Tamiya Nats and I ran a motiv 13.5 motor in the GT1 class . The motor ran strong all weekend and never faded during the 8min race ! I geared the motor at 4.17 at 43degre timing and the motor was coming off at 162 with a WTF fan on it . I did try 40degre timing and after 8min the motor came off at 123 . I finished 3rd in GT1 ! By just looking at the motiv motor you can tell Pauly builds only quality motors and I even heard that other motor builders said that Paul put quality parts in his motor ! Great job Paul ! Can't wait to try your batteries !
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I ran my 13.5 in 1S with the 7800 Defy battery in my GT 12. It is by far one of the smoothest accelerating motors I have run. As everyone running in blinky will tell you, don't change the timing and gear to the track. These are awesome pan car motors. Mine came at 45 deg on the can. I set rollout at 70 to test and settled at 73mm. 12.3 rotor has more than enough torque and RPM to balance great acceleration with high top end. Temp was at 140 F without a fan. Great product Paul. You'll be seeing more orders from Madison
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I ran my 13.5 in 1S with the 7800 Defy battery in my GT 12. It is by far one of the smoothest accelerating motors I have run. As everyone running in blinky will tell you, don't change the timing and gear to the track. These are awesome pan car motors. Mine came at 45 deg on the can. I set rollout at 70 to test and settled at 73mm. 12.3 rotor has more than enough torque and RPM to balance great acceleration with high top end. Temp was at 140 F without a fan. Great product Paul. You'll be seeing more orders from Madison
What size track? Did you try gearing closer to an 80 mm rollout? If so, what did your results look like?
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What size track? Did you try gearing closer to an 80 mm rollout? If so, what did your results look like?
The car weighs in at 950g per the spec. I'm sure it would roll out higher with less weight in regular 12th scale. The track is huge and I was testing back to back with a D4 shortstack.we are running 18 to 19 second laps. I will put it in the SpeedMerchant and see what she does. I'm sure it will not disappoint.
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What does different rotor strengths offer for tuning aids? I assume a higher strength rotor will have more torque, correct?

I'll be using a 13.5 for blinky 1/12 and a 21.5 for F1.

Other words - is it worth buying a high strength rotor?
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What does different rotor strengths offer for tuning aids? I assume a higher strength rotor will have more torque, correct?

I'll be using a 13.5 for blinky 1/12 and a 21.5 for F1.

Other words - is it worth buying a high strength rotor?
In contrast to some other manufacturers, the Motiv rotors are all the same diameter and only differ in rotor strength, so the normal discussion about air gap impacting torque and RPM isn't applicable. You are correct that the higher rotor strength should increase torque, though.

Given that there is no difference in diameter and most folks say 'more is better', I think the high strength rotor is a good choice for most applications, but especially with 2s classes. Depending on the layout and all the other variables the difference might not be as noticeable with 1/12, but it is likely still worth trying.
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The Motiv 10.5T will be submitted to BRCA and EFRA, but ROAR submittal is still under discussion. Do you know of any racing series that use the ROAR list but disallow motors from the BRCA or EFRA lists?
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The Western Canadian Indoor Championship Series goes by the ROAR motor approval list. However, last year an exception was made to allow motors that were on the BRCA list as well. To the best of my knowledge, this was a temporary exception. I will check into this further.

We run 10.5 non-boosted WGT in this series.
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I just got conformation that motors that are on the BRCA OR ROAR list will be legal to use in the WCICS series moving forward.

Please let us know when the 10.5 is approved.
I am not seeing the 10.5 on any lists yet, is there an ETA on when/if it will be approved? First race for me in the series is the 17th of this month, really don't want to go and buy another motor...
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I am not seeing the 10.5 on any lists yet, is there an ETA on when/if it will be approved? First race for me in the series is the 17th of this month, really don't want to go and buy another motor...
Paul has been absolutely slammed recently and I am not sure if he has had the time to proceed with the submittal process for the 10.5. In all honesty, I doubt you will see anything by the 17th. I asked him about it recently for the Reedy 1/12 race and the answer was that he just hasn't had the time yet to move forward with this. Sorry I don't have a better answer.
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