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NEW FOR 2017 - MC2!

MOTIV M-Code motors, now MC2 for 2017, come pre-set to perform well in most applications. Each MOTIV M-Code motor comes with a specification check list specific to that individual motor. All MOTIV M-Code spec motors come standard with the new "S-HIGH" rotor. If you prefer a different rotor, please send an email via the "Contact Us" page on the Motiv site and reference your order.

Motiv dealers in the U.S. that have received MC2s are:

ProLevel RC
Fordham Hobbies
Lefthander RC
TQ RC Racing
Activ RC
Gripworks RC
Stormer Hobbies
AMain Hobbies
NorCal Hobbies

& More - Check your local hobby shop!

“Defy” Series Pro Li-Po battery weights

“Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 65c+ - 215 grams
“Thin Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 3900mah, 65c+ - 159 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 60c+ - 258 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 6000mah, 90c+ - 311 grams

Following are some suggested starting points for the MC2 line of motors for each class (we will update/add to this as often as possible). One key piece to pay attention to when adjusting your motor is Amp Draw. Try to keep spec motors around 3.0.

25.5 F1
FDR: 2.9-3.2
Timing: 42-45* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

25.5 USVTA
FDR: 3.6-3.9
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

21.5 USGT
FDR: 3.9-4.1
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.1-4.4
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 3.8-4.0
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 1/12
Rollout: 83-85mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.7-4.9
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 4.4-4.6
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 1/12
Rollout: 78-80mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

WGTR
Rollout: 73mm
Timing: 46
Rotor: S-MID for larger tracks. S-HIGH for smaller tracks, or tracks with black carpet.

17.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 5.85-6.0
Timing: 45-48*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 2WD SC & Stadium Truck
FDR: 7.5-7.8
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 4WD Buggy
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

Following are starting points for Mod motors in the MC1 line

7.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 10.2
Timing: @ 28*
Rotor: M-MID
Fan: Optional

5.5 TC
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: @ 30*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

4.5 TC
FDR: 7.6-7.8
Timing: @ 20*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

Every MOTIV Motor is hand checked, assembled and packaged by a professional in house at our WI, USA office. During this process every motor component must meet MOTIV requirements before assembly and packaging. Included is a specification check list which is filled out on a motor to motor basis all through the testing and assembly process to ensure the quality of our finished product


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Old 10-16-2016, 11:43 PM   #346
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Good info here.... I watched all of Nick Adams' videos on YouTube, and he reached the same conclusion on both the 7500 nanotech ultimate/graphene packs, and the fantom motors(although he tested the 17.5t motors)....
He found the Nanotech Ultimates stronger than the Graphene I think, certainly they kept cooler under the same amp load.
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Yep, and the nanotechs were way better than the other packs tested...
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Need some help on which way to go with my Motiv 21.5 in my USGT touring car. The motor did not feel like it had much pull as my TSR motor did.

FDR 3.04 (same as I ran with my TSR motor)
Mid rotor
Timing on can around 50 (I have not put it on the motor analyzer to get true timing)
170 foot straight flowing outdoor asphalt track
Generally it is med to high bite

My question is should I lower my timing or go up on the FDR to try to get some better pull out of the corner.
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I would suggest going to the stock high rotor, that will give you more rip off the corner. With this you will have to go down in timing. Around 45-47 degrees.

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Well put the Fantom back in and got my times into the 18.6/18.7 area, a tad in consistant but enough to grab 2nd for the States in 21.5. Also found that my uber expensive R1 Wurks Lipo was a slug as well, looking back at the times I found:

18.6 - FR-1 and Nanotech 7500
18.8 - FR1 and R1 Wurks Lipo
18.9 - Motiv and Nanotech
19.3 - Motiv and R1 Wurks Lipo

To be fair, the Motiv had good punch and probably be a great motor for a tight carpet track, but for a large outdoor track, it's just not in the game. Biggest disappointment was the R1 Wurks 7600mah 90C Lipo by far. Ran better times with 3 month old Nanotechs.


So food for thought.
Hi,

Please email [email protected]

This is Paul's personally email. Maybe the other emails were going to spam.

Also can I asked where you bought the motor? Was it from Motiv direct?

Just from what I was reading it sounds like your gearing is way off for the motiv motor.

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Nexxus,
please email us at [email protected] with Your purchase information & we will sort this out for you. You can also email us thru the website.Definitely what you found is not normal.

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Well put the Fantom back in and got my times into the 18.6/18.7 area, a tad in consistant but enough to grab 2nd for the States in 21.5. Also found that my uber expensive R1 Wurks Lipo was a slug as well, looking back at the times I found:

18.6 - FR-1 and Nanotech 7500
18.8 - FR1 and R1 Wurks Lipo
18.9 - Motiv and Nanotech
19.3 - Motiv and R1 Wurks Lipo

To be fair, the Motiv had good punch and probably be a great motor for a tight carpet track, but for a large outdoor track, it's just not in the game. Biggest disappointment was the R1 Wurks 7600mah 90C Lipo by far. Ran better times with 3 month old Nanotechs.


So food for thought.
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This is a Motiv thread to help with Motiv product and Motiv related question. Please keep it to that.

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Hi,

Please email [email protected]

This is Paul's personally email. Maybe the other emails were going to spam.

Also can I asked where you bought the motor? Was it from Motiv direct?

Just from what I was reading it sounds like your gearing is way off for the motiv motor.

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Motor was bought through Feral Batteries in Australia and motor was sealed when delivered. Gearing won't change how a motor dynos, and 10 Watts down on the 24K and FR-1 translates to a good 8-9% less power, in a class like Sportsman where every bit counts, it made a difference.
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Hi,

Please email [email protected]

This is Paul's personally email. Maybe the other emails were going to spam.

Also can I asked where you bought the motor? Was it from Motiv direct?

Just from what I was reading it sounds like your gearing is way off for the motiv motor.

Thanks,
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Tried that email bounced back

As for my gearing, I got down to 2.6 FDR, should I get to 1:1? The more runs I do the more I look at it, the more I feel the motor is a slug.

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Thanks I have re-emailed

Also emailed R1 Wurks yesterday surprise surprise no response (yet they are all too keen when it's a call out in a public forum...)
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Well I am staggered, email replied from Paul and they refunded the motor.

A lot of companies talk about standing by their products these guys actually did it. Can't fault that.
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Paul's always backed his product.

You'd be surprised how helpful most of the industry guys are
If you give them time and if you find effective channels to communicate
Instead of putting them on blast by default. Put yourself in their shoes for a moment. Although yeah I hear ya sometimes you gotta get to the point. Lol.
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My experience with Motiv is very positive. It looks like my motor sucked in something of the track and it did a bit of damage. Paul has gone way beyond what I would call good customer service to help me out and get me back up and running.

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