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NEW FOR 2017 - MC2!

MOTIV M-Code motors, now MC2 for 2017, come pre-set to perform well in most applications. Each MOTIV M-Code motor comes with a specification check list specific to that individual motor. All MOTIV M-Code spec motors come standard with the new "S-HIGH" rotor. If you prefer a different rotor, please send an email via the "Contact Us" page on the Motiv site and reference your order.

Motiv dealers in the U.S. that have received MC2s are:

ProLevel RC
Fordham Hobbies
Lefthander RC
TQ RC Racing
Activ RC
Gripworks RC
Stormer Hobbies
AMain Hobbies
NorCal Hobbies

& More - Check your local hobby shop!

“Defy” Series Pro Li-Po battery weights

“Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 65c+ - 215 grams
“Thin Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 3900mah, 65c+ - 159 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 60c+ - 258 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 6000mah, 90c+ - 311 grams

Following are some suggested starting points for the MC2 line of motors for each class (we will update/add to this as often as possible). One key piece to pay attention to when adjusting your motor is Amp Draw. Try to keep spec motors around 3.0.

25.5 F1
FDR: 2.9-3.2
Timing: 42-45* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

25.5 USVTA
FDR: 3.6-3.9
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

21.5 USGT
FDR: 3.9-4.1
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.1-4.4
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 3.8-4.0
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 1/12
Rollout: 83-85mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.7-4.9
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 4.4-4.6
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 1/12
Rollout: 78-80mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

WGTR
Rollout: 73mm
Timing: 46
Rotor: S-MID for larger tracks. S-HIGH for smaller tracks, or tracks with black carpet.

17.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 5.85-6.0
Timing: 45-48*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 2WD SC & Stadium Truck
FDR: 7.5-7.8
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 4WD Buggy
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

Following are starting points for Mod motors in the MC1 line

7.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 10.2
Timing: @ 28*
Rotor: M-MID
Fan: Optional

5.5 TC
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: @ 30*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

4.5 TC
FDR: 7.6-7.8
Timing: @ 20*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

Every MOTIV Motor is hand checked, assembled and packaged by a professional in house at our WI, USA office. During this process every motor component must meet MOTIV requirements before assembly and packaging. Included is a specification check list which is filled out on a motor to motor basis all through the testing and assembly process to ensure the quality of our finished product


How its Made: Motiv RC Brushless Motor assembly w/ Paul Lemieux

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Old 08-05-2015, 07:07 AM   #16
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Can anyone give numbers that I might expect to see for stator resistance and rotor strength? I'm interested in 17.5 and 13.5.
Send an email to the contact email address on the webpage. I received a quick response from Paul in regards to my question.
I can not fully answer your question because there are three different rotors for the M-codes motors. I bought a 21.5 that came with the "mid" rotor and was told the mid's range in a gauss reading anywhere from 1580 to 1620.
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Hey all: Just curious is this Paul Lemieux's new company. If so what happened with his thunder power deal? Thanks
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Going to try a 13.5 stock rotor and 1S in one of the GT12s.
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Yes it's Paul's company, the way I understand it thunder power is simply getting away from the car side to focus on helicopter and airplane stuff.
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Anyone here have any experience with the Motiv batteries? Also curious about the weight of them.
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I ran the defy 1S packs this past Sunday, tq, lap record, race record, and won. Packs were very good and weighed around 155-156
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Can anyone give numbers that I might expect to see for stator resistance and rotor strength? I'm interested in 17.5 and 13.5.
Here are the numbers included with my motor (13.5T). I have measured the rotor on a second machine, but haven't done so with the stator. Not sure what good these numbers will be, but here you go:

Rotor +1595 -1609
Stator A 13.0
Stator B 13.1
Stator C 13.2

On the second machine my rotor measured at right around 1480 on both sides, which was still exceptionally high compared to the (many) other rotors we have measured on that machine.
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Here are the numbers included with my motor (13.5T). I have measured the rotor on a second machine, but haven't done so with the stator. Not sure what good these numbers will be, but here you go:

Rotor +1595 -1609
Stator A 13.0
Stator B 13.1
Stator C 13.2

On the second machine my rotor measured at right around 1480 on both sides, which was still exceptionally high compared to the (many) other rotors we have measured on that machine.
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Mine was 13.3 13.3 13.3
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Thanks, guys. These numbers are right in line with what Paul said in response to my question submitted on the Motiv web site.

On another note, I didn't realize this was his company! I would have expected him to use the same name-- Gravity-- but I'm sure there is a good reason he didn't. No matter what the name, his customer service is always great!
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Have you ran the motor ?
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My motor and battery shipped today. Everything I hear is good news. Hoping for some good results! Next challenge it to get Paul to Madison to race.
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No, but they seem like a good package
And look nice

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Impressive gauss readings on the rotor. Have never seen anything that high.
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