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NEW FOR 2017 - MC2!

MOTIV M-Code motors, now MC2 for 2017, come pre-set to perform well in most applications. Each MOTIV M-Code motor comes with a specification check list specific to that individual motor. All MOTIV M-Code spec motors come standard with the new "S-HIGH" rotor. If you prefer a different rotor, please send an email via the "Contact Us" page on the Motiv site and reference your order.

Motiv dealers in the U.S. that have received MC2s are:

ProLevel RC
Fordham Hobbies
Lefthander RC
TQ RC Racing
Activ RC
Gripworks RC
Stormer Hobbies
AMain Hobbies
NorCal Hobbies

& More - Check your local hobby shop!

“Defy” Series Pro Li-Po battery weights

“Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 65c+ - 215 grams
“Thin Shorty” 2 Cell, 7.4v, 3900mah, 65c+ - 159 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 5000mah, 60c+ - 258 grams
2 Cell, 7.4v, 6000mah, 90c+ - 311 grams

Following are some suggested starting points for the MC2 line of motors for each class (we will update/add to this as often as possible). One key piece to pay attention to when adjusting your motor is Amp Draw. Try to keep spec motors around 3.0.

25.5 F1
FDR: 2.9-3.2
Timing: 42-45* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

25.5 USVTA
FDR: 3.6-3.9
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

21.5 USGT
FDR: 3.9-4.1
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.1-4.4
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 3.8-4.0
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 1/12
Rollout: 83-85mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.7-4.9
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 4.4-4.6
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 1/12
Rollout: 78-80mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

WGTR
Rollout: 73mm
Timing: 46
Rotor: S-MID for larger tracks. S-HIGH for smaller tracks, or tracks with black carpet.

17.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 5.85-6.0
Timing: 45-48*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 2WD SC & Stadium Truck
FDR: 7.5-7.8
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 4WD Buggy
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

Following are starting points for Mod motors in the MC1 line

7.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 10.2
Timing: @ 28*
Rotor: M-MID
Fan: Optional

5.5 TC
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: @ 30*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

4.5 TC
FDR: 7.6-7.8
Timing: @ 20*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

Every MOTIV Motor is hand checked, assembled and packaged by a professional in house at our WI, USA office. During this process every motor component must meet MOTIV requirements before assembly and packaging. Included is a specification check list which is filled out on a motor to motor basis all through the testing and assembly process to ensure the quality of our finished product


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Old 04-11-2016, 05:08 AM   #181
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I'm in Australia so it's not exactly a local call. I'll send an email and see what they can do for me. Thanks for all the tips.
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I wanted to ask, is anyone running a Motiv in F1 right now, and if so how do you like it.
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I wanted to ask, is anyone running a Motiv in F1 right now, and if so how do you like it.
I'm running 21.5 in f1 and is great. I think Bryan Wynn has been running the 25.5
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I'm running 21.5 in f1 and is great. I think Bryan Wynn has been running the 25.5
Thank you, I tried to search but nothing came up. Are you running carpet or asphalt?
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Thank you, I tried to search but nothing came up. Are you running carpet or asphalt?
I ran the motor first in asphalt and then carpet all season.
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I've tried nearly every current generation 21.5 available in f1 and this is by far my favorite. There are other motors i can turn the same lap time with but none with the same ease or consistently as the motiv. The smoother power delivery makes it deceptively fast.
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Old 05-02-2016, 11:43 AM   #187
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Any idea when the 10.5 will be ROAR approved?
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Previous I ran Cert 24k and Team Powers.

I tested out a 17.5T motiv with a HT rotor at my local track and set fast lap and TQ and ended up winning the main. Love the power band of this motor. Left it at the factory timing of about 43 degrees. Geared it for the track. I comes off around 130 degrees.

I ordered another 17.5 as backup and 2x 21.5 more for my USGT.

Thanks Paul for making such nice products. !
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JIJ5 - working on getting an update for you.

mtveten & Dino_D - glad to hear you guys are happy with the performance of your Motiv products. Paul doesn't get on here much, if at all, but he is happy to hear the positive feedback when we chat with him. Thank you!
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Any idea when the 10.5 will be ROAR approved?
Response from Paul re. Motiv 10.5:

ROAR really doesn't offer a 10.5 class so I saw not much of a reason to get it approved. But it does meet the spec rule package just like the others.
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I'm running 21.5 in f1 and is great. I think Bryan Wynn has been running the 25.5
Not to hijack the thread, but I have been running the Team Scream 25.5 in F1 since November. If you have any questions about those, feel free to ask in the Team Scream thread.

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How accurate are the timing marks on the motiv 17.5 motors? I do not have a motor checker. I bought the motor used and it required disassembly for repair (broken solder connection of the B solder tab to the stator). Luckily I solder for a living.
I bought the high rotor for the motor (thanks Alex @ Gripworks), and was surprised to see that it is only marginally stronger than the mid rotor (1621 vs 1680). I guess every bit helps. :P Nice to see the motors are being offered with the high rotor installed already. Saves $53.
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How accurate are the timing marks on the motiv 17.5 motors? I do not have a motor checker. I bought the motor used and it required disassembly for repair (broken solder connection of the B solder tab to the stator). Luckily I solder for a living.
I bought the high rotor for the motor (thanks Alex @ Gripworks), and was surprised to see that it is only marginally stronger than the mid rotor (1621 vs 1680). I guess every bit helps. :P Nice to see the motors are being offered with the high rotor installed already. Saves $53.
I have found it depends on the motor. The first batch I had was really close, the second might have been off 4 degrees. Since then they have appeared fairly accurate. Best bet is to get a g-force motor checker. For 17.5 touring stock I have found 45-47 with the high rotor works quite well. That being said maybe one of the team guys has found something better
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I have found it depends on the motor. The first batch I had was really close, the second might have been off 4 degrees. Since then they have appeared fairly accurate. Best bet is to get a g-force motor checker. For 17.5 touring stock I have found 45-47 with the high rotor works quite well. That being said maybe one of the team guys has found something better
I'd agree that generally the motors have been pretty close, but each motor will depend, as variances in each sensor board exist. In regards to the rotor, a difference between 1680 and 1620 is pretty notable, even if it sounds like a marginal difference. I think you'll find it does wake up the motor. I'd start at 45* timing on the end bell, 3.8-4.0 FDR (for indoor carpet anyhow), and check temps every few minutes (also run a motor fan.) I'd shoot for 140-160 degrees for a temperature after 6 minutes, and explore the possibility of going up a few degrees for timing.
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Hi All,

I'm shopping for a 25.5 motor and noticed your descriptions says it's 'short stacked'. It's not actually short stack is it? Apparently SS is not allowed in ROAR 25.5 but I wouldn't mind getting one if the Motiv description was true

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- Short stack design for low resistance


http://motivrc.com/store/#!/M-CODE-2...540/p/56906821
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