CRC new Pan Car Rubber Tires
#1
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CRC new Pan Car Rubber Tires
I am sure you have seen this, but this is what I have been looking for some time. I would love to run 235 and WGT with a rubber tire. I have used foams for many years and have even made my own cap tires. But this will bring pan cars out of the dark age's.
With this rubber tire option we might even see more and more buying pan cars.
Thanks you Frank, nicely done! NOW tell me where and when I can get them, I will need at least 2 sets to start and we will go from there.
With this rubber tire option we might even see more and more buying pan cars.
Thanks you Frank, nicely done! NOW tell me where and when I can get them, I will need at least 2 sets to start and we will go from there.
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#8
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Hey Donn,
I you order some of these - pick me up a set too please - I really want to try them on a WGT chassis at CAL! (I'm liking the idea of tha 17.5SpecGT class - but it'll be fun to put maybe 13.5 power down and see how they do - would be awesome if they can handle the 10.5/1c speeds at CAM too.)
I you order some of these - pick me up a set too please - I really want to try them on a WGT chassis at CAL! (I'm liking the idea of tha 17.5SpecGT class - but it'll be fun to put maybe 13.5 power down and see how they do - would be awesome if they can handle the 10.5/1c speeds at CAM too.)
#9
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Having actually run rubber tires in an f1 car, the shimizu tires have a pretty good life span. Most pan cars will be much lighter than a sedan, with less tire wear. In fact, the commonly spec'd Tamiya "TCS" tires (rebadged pit shimizu 571/572) need a couple runs to break in, and then they are good.
I ran foam on F1 and I was very comfortable with it, but it seemed like rubber tires helped get a bigger audience. Granted, it's still not huge, but it's better.
I ran foam on F1 and I was very comfortable with it, but it seemed like rubber tires helped get a bigger audience. Granted, it's still not huge, but it's better.
#10
Tech Regular
When you look at the CRC offer it is the rims which is the innovation.
The rubber seems to be standard pit shimitzu f104 size.
We have here a guy who adapted a WGT chassis to be able to instal F1 104 wheels (Rides R1) by just changing his axle hubs to f1 style (X10 and X1 axles are interchangeable). He does not seem to be able to get up to the speed of the classic foams. We run 10,5 2s with open ESCs though.
The rubber seems to be standard pit shimitzu f104 size.
We have here a guy who adapted a WGT chassis to be able to instal F1 104 wheels (Rides R1) by just changing his axle hubs to f1 style (X10 and X1 axles are interchangeable). He does not seem to be able to get up to the speed of the classic foams. We run 10,5 2s with open ESCs though.
Last edited by sbd; 07-25-2015 at 03:42 AM.
#11
Tech Master
The tyres are 2.5 inches in diameter, the tyres are fairly low profile but with the extra flap of rubber to come down the outside of the wheel to look like high profile f1 tyres.
#12
Tech Master
Not seen any of those for years, most racers I know at club level are getting 5-6 weeks running from them, but the life of modern touring car tyres is nothing compared to F1 rubbers.
Running Pit Shimizus on my F1 on carpet it takes a good few runs to get them bedded in, then they just run and run. As we only run indoors on carpet I can't recall anyone replacing them because they are worn out, usually it's because they have either torn them in a big accident, or because they feel they are pretty old and best to start off the new season with new tyres.
It does also mean there's a lot less grip than foams, a pan car chassis can't work the tyres hard like a touring car can. F1s are running 21.5T/2S and 13.5T/1S and even then foams on F1s are considerably faster.
Running Pit Shimizus on my F1 on carpet it takes a good few runs to get them bedded in, then they just run and run. As we only run indoors on carpet I can't recall anyone replacing them because they are worn out, usually it's because they have either torn them in a big accident, or because they feel they are pretty old and best to start off the new season with new tyres.
It does also mean there's a lot less grip than foams, a pan car chassis can't work the tyres hard like a touring car can. F1s are running 21.5T/2S and 13.5T/1S and even then foams on F1s are considerably faster.
#14
Tech Champion
I think it is a good idea to try...but am skeptical that it will catch on. Rubber tires in F1 are only popular because of their looks, wear, and lack of maintenance. But most F1 drivers would also tell you rubber tires don't handle well and isn't nearly as fun to drive as foam. I've been an advocate of rubber tires on pan cars but...handling has to get a lot better than where they currently are before they will see wide acceptance. But if you can find a rubber tire that handles nearly as well as foam...you'll revolutionize all pan car classes.
#15
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I think it is a good idea to try...but am skeptical that it will catch on. Rubber tires in F1 are only popular because of their looks, wear, and lack of maintenance. But most F1 drivers would also tell you rubber tires don't handle well and isn't nearly as fun to drive as foam. I've been an advocate of rubber tires on pan cars but...handling has to get a lot better than where they currently are before they will see wide acceptance. But if you can find a rubber tire that handles nearly as well as foam...you'll revolutionize all pan car classes.
My F1 tires just keep on going and going, I'm still using the TCS tires and Pit Shimizus I bought last year and they're still as fast as newer tires.
The rubber tires bring back the driver into the performance equation, IMHO. It's less about pure speed and tire truing knowledge and more about using the tires properly. Balancing the car under braking, cornering, and throttle.
Just my opinion, of course. I may buy a WGT or Spec 17.5GT now that rubber tires are an option, if the class is spec'd on them.
Mark