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Old 07-19-2015, 02:27 PM
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I have been hearing that this is a good setup for low grip asphalt.

It does makes sense to me.

Did anybody try this kind of setup?


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the shafts are less resistance to suspension movement. IE freer suspension movement.
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I tried them in the rear and there was very very little difference, if anything the DCJ were not as good.
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My rear suspension does not travel enough for the DCJ to make any difference in the rears.

But if you can afford to do so, then don't let it stop you.
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Originally Posted by ThePanda
the shafts are less resistance to suspension movement. IE freer suspension movement.
Yes that is what I heard sir. But due to budgetary constraints, I will still continue to run conventional CVDs.

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Unless you are running on a really bumpy track DCJ's in the rear are not in any way going to give you any advantage, if anything they are just more rotating mass in the rear as they weigh more.

As far as I know, most of the top world class drivers do not use them, so I doubt we will really gain any advantage.
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Originally Posted by Qatmix
Unless you are running on a really bumpy track DCJ's in the rear are not in any way going to give you any advantage, if anything they are just more rotating mass in the rear as they weigh more.

As far as I know, most of the top world class drivers do not use them, so I doubt we will really gain any advantage.
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I had an extra set and put them in my car but I cannot say I noticed any difference in handling.
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Not needed and a waste of money. Standard CVD's are fine and I have even run the old school dog bones on my Tamiya plastic tub sedans and never had any issues.
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Sometimes you might use the DCJ/ECS on the rear of the car to free it up in high grip conditions. The dual joints do nothing to benefit the axle during suspension travel, though it does change the length of the main shaft itself by making it shorter, and it moves the pivot point closer to the center of the car. How that affects handling, I can't really say because I'm not an engineer and definitely not smart enough to know that stuff.

The main theory behind this is that the DCJ/ECS generally weighs more than a standard aluminum rear axle. The additional weight so far back is what seems to make the most difference. I have a buddy that has tested it on his Awesomatix and felt no difference, however the Awesomatix does not use an aluminum rear axle assembly so there is no substantial weight difference for him when using their DCJ. On the Xray it does seem noticeable when going from the standard aluminum rear axle to the ECS on the rear. Some of the Xray guys at 5280 (carpet) in Colorado swear by it when their grip is high. I've tried it on medium-high bite asphalt recently and I did notice a difference as well.
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Originally Posted by R Dodge
Sometimes you might use the DCJ/ECS on the rear of the car to free it up in high grip conditions. The dual joints do nothing to benefit the axle during suspension travel, though it does change the length of the main shaft itself by making it shorter, and it moves the pivot point closer to the center of the car. How that affects handling, I can't really say because I'm not an engineer and definitely not smart enough to know that stuff.

The main theory behind this is that the DCJ/ECS generally weighs more than a standard aluminum rear axle. The additional weight so far back is what seems to make the most difference. I have a buddy that has tested it on his Awesomatix and felt no difference, however the Awesomatix does not use an aluminum rear axle assembly so there is no substantial weight difference for him when using their DCJ. On the Xray it does seem noticeable when going from the standard aluminum rear axle to the ECS on the rear. Some of the Xray guys at 5280 (carpet) in Colorado swear by it when their grip is high. I've tried it on medium-high bite asphalt recently and I did notice a difference as well.
Well I guess the concept does work. Maybe it's a matter of preference and driving style.

I far from that level but it seems like a good idea for me - but that's me.
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My mate at a national this year was running them in the rear of his tc6.2 and when he asked atop team driver they said remove them as the just make the car feel like it has not bk end
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Basically the rear of the car will roll more. Sometimes that can be good sometimes bad.
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Originally Posted by L.Fairtrace
Basically the rear of the car will roll more. Sometimes that can be good sometimes bad.
Again, it's a matter of preference and driving style I would surmise.
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