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Welcome to the XRAY T4'16 Thread & Wikipost! Here you will find some useful info, tips and tricks as well as setups that are used by several team drivers. This wikipost is a work in progress and should continue to develop over time.

Tips & Tricks:

Alex Hagberg's Tech Tip Tuesday articles

How to mount your Protoform LTC-R Body
Setting static camber
How to mount weight on your chassis Part1
How to mount the rear wing on Protoform bodies
Simple troubleshooting guide
How to mount the battery on your chassis
How to glue your front tires for CRC Black carpet with Eric Anderson
Utilizing Exponential and RMode on the M12S
How to mount weight on your chassis Part2

Team driver Tim Wahl posted some very useful tips on Facebook as he worked through building a new kit.

1- Carbon Parts
2-Suspension
3-Solid Axle and Differential
4-Bulkheads & Drivetrain
5-Driveshaft (ECS & CVD)
6-Front & Rear Suspension
7-Tweak
8-Anti-Roll Bar
9-Battery Fix (OPTIONAL)
10-Bumper & Body
11-Shocks
12-Steering

New Graphite Hubs:
Xray have recently released some additional Graphite hubs for the T4 lineup. The 4° Graphite C-Hub has been out for some time and is known to improve steering on entry, and in general makes the car turn better. This has been the go-to c-hub on asphalt for many on the Xray team, though it is not needed on high bite carpet. The Graphite rear hub tends to make the car more stable, especially on corner entry. We are still working on gathering input on the new Graphite steering block, but for the moment feel that it should improve steering response. All Graphite parts are approximately 1g lighter than the Hard or Medium options.

Option Parts to consider:
XRA301196 T4 Graphite Upper Deck 1.6mm V2
XRA301226 Foam Bumper – Hard - highly recommend
XRA302165 Composite Front Suspension Arm 2-Hole – Hard
XRA302169 Composite Front Suspension Arm 1-Hole – Graphite
XRA302803 1.3mm Front Anti-Roll Bar
XRA303169 Composite Rear Suspension Arm 1-Hole – Graphite
XRA303802 1.2mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar
XRA305137 Steel Solid Axle Driveshaft Adapters - HUDY Spring Steel - highly recommend
XRA305242 Composite Drive Shaft Replacement Cap 3.5mm – Orange – Strong (QTY 4)
XRA305351 Aluminum Wheel Hub – Offset “-0.75mm” – Black (QTY 2)
XRA306191 T4 Graphite + Aluminum Fully Adjustable Battery Holder
XRA308264 4S Spring-Set Progressive C=2.5-2.8 (QTY 2)
XRA308276 4S Spring-Set C=2.7 (QTY 2)
XRA308286 4S Spring-Set C=2.6 (QTY 2)
Specific to Asphalt:
XRA302383 Composite C-Hub Right – 4* - Graphite (ECS)
XRA302384 Composite C-Hub Left – 4* - Graphite (ECS)
XRA308039 Aluminum Progressive Shock System – Set (QTY 2)

Specific to Carpet:

XRA301141 T4 Aluminum Flex Chassis 2mm
XRA302375 Composite C-Hub Right – 6* - Hard ***Modification may be required if they don't have the "ECS" stamp.

XRA302376 Composite C-Hub Left – 6* - Hard ***Modification may be required if they don't have the "ECS" stamp.

XRA303711-O Aluminum Rear Lower Suspension Holder – Front – RF
Recent Setups:
3 July 2016 - Alex Hagberg - European Championship - Asphalt - Mod - 2nd
3 July 2016 - Bruno Coelho - European Championship - Asphalt - Mod - 4th
3 July 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - European Championship - Asphalt - 13.5 - TQ + Win

29 June 2016 - Max Kuenning - Reedy - Asphalt - Mod - 4th
29 June 2016 - Keith Yu - Reedy - Asphalt - 13.5 - TQ + 2nd
29 June 2016 - Eric Anderson - Reedy - Asphalt - 13.5 - 3rd

15 May 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 4 Riccione - Asphalt - Mod - TQ + Win
15 May 2016 - Mattia Collina - ETS Rd 4 Riccione - Asphalt - 13.5 - Win

17 April 2016 - Max Kuenning - MHIC - Carpet - Mod - 4th

10 April 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - Mod - 2nd
10 April 2016 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - Mod - 4th
10 April 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - 13.5 - TQ + Win

22 March 2016 - Paul LeMieux - Canadian Nats - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
22 March 2016 - Luke Pittman - Canadian Nats - Carpet - Mod - 3rd

6 March 2016 - Chris Adams - ROAR Nats - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
6 March 2016 - Craig Xavier - ROAR Nats - Carpet - 17.5 - 4th
6 March 2016 - Eric Anderson - ROAR Nats - Carpet - 17.5 - 5th

6 February 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 2 Koblenz - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
6 February 2016 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 2 Koblenz - Carpet - Mod - 2nd

31 January 2016 - Alex Hagberg - Snowbirds - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
31 January 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - Snowbirds - Carpet - All - See Comments
31 January 2016 - Drew Ellis - Snowbirds - Carpet - 13.5 - 4th
31 January 2016 - Robbie Dodge - Snowbirds - Carpet - 17.5 - Win

13 December 2015 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 3rd
13 December 2015 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 4th
13 December 2015 - Olly Jeffries - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 7th
13 December 2015 - Jan Ratheisky - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - 13.5 - TQ + Win

29 November 2015 - Paul LeMieux - US Indoor Champs - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win

25 October 2015 - Eric Anderson - Stock Wars - Carpet - 17.5 - 2nd

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Old 12-10-2015, 05:16 PM   #301
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T4 '16---With 96 spur, will 56-58 pinion fit?
I ran at a large 1/8th scale track for 13.5 a while back. Believe I ran 55/96, but you won't be able to fit much bigger pinion on the car without going to a smaller spur.

Lee Speed makes a ton of different size spurs. Think they go down to 80T in 64P...

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Hi guys , I've been out of the hobby for about 4 years and now getting the itch again lol lol just got myself 2 of these bad boys lol to run 17.5 and mod . What's the best motor for those 2 applications ? Money is of no concern and I know this isn't the proper place to ask this question but as I'm running xray I wanted to ask here sorry .
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Hi guys , I've been out of the hobby for about 4 years and now getting the itch again lol lol just got myself 2 of these bad boys lol to run 17.5 and mod . What's the best motor for those 2 applications ? Money is of no concern and I know this isn't the proper place to ask this question but as I'm running xray I wanted to ask here sorry .
My M-code (motiv) is really fast in 17.5.
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You're going to get a lot of different answers...

I personally run Schuur Speed, but I can't speak for the others listed...

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Hi guys , I've been out of the hobby for about 4 years and now getting the itch again lol lol just got myself 2 of these bad boys lol to run 17.5 and mod . What's the best motor for those 2 applications ? Money is of no concern and I know this isn't the proper place to ask this question but as I'm running xray I wanted to ask here sorry .
Trinity d4 1s 17.5 is one of best motors on the market. New revtech 24k is good too.
Mod any thing will work.
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My M-code (motiv) is really fast in 17.5.
I'll second the Motiv. Great motor, easy to make power with and runs cool.
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I know it should be something super obvious, but this is my first kit with carbon chases (first XRAY and first Touring as well). So, do I need to apply CA glue to sides of chases as XRAY T4 manual suggests? Edges look super nice as are from kit and I'm kind of a bit afraid I will mess it all up
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I know it should be something super obvious, but this is my first kit with carbon chases (first XRAY and first Touring as well). So, do I need to apply CA glue to sides of chases as XRAY T4 manual suggests? Edges look super nice as are from kit and I'm kind of a bit afraid I will mess it all up
yes.. you should do that.. to prevent splitting. do it on all the main parts.. towers.. chassis.. for sure.. it looks alot harder than it really is.. you can literally use glue.. and then wipe access easily..
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yes.. you should do that.. to prevent splitting. do it on all the main parts.. towers.. chassis.. for sure.. it looks alot harder than it really is.. you can literally use glue.. and then wipe access easily..
Yep, definitely do this.
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I normally just do the main chassis. Never felt the need (nor have the patience ) to do the top deck and shock towers. Does look nicer though!
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+1 just chassis
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I know it should be something super obvious, but this is my first kit with carbon chases (first XRAY and first Touring as well). So, do I need to apply CA glue to sides of chases as XRAY T4 manual suggests? Edges look super nice as are from kit and I'm kind of a bit afraid I will mess it all up
I've never done this on any of my cars and I have never had a problem with any of my chassis or shock towers delaminating. If you get to the point that the chassis is delaminating from regular use, then the car will likely be 10 years out of date. If its delaminating from crashing, you should probably re-evaluate what class you are running.

Never sealed the edges of my B44, which is far harder on the chassis and parts because of the dirt and offroad jumps. Yet I never had any problems there running the car at least once a week for 2-3 years.

The quality of the carbon chassis now a days, especially from Xray, is just so good that gluing the edges is just not needed.
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+1 to above. If you hit something hard enough to delaminate the epoxy, I don't see a thin layer of CA doing much good.
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Yep, definitely do this.
I only do the chassis and it helps to prevent snagging on carpet, and if your chassis ever drags on asphalt it could pull the carbon apart in a less than desirable way. Of course don't ever let your chassis drag. LOL
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