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Old 02-11-2015, 09:36 AM   #31
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i think you have to remember some folks have no skills what so ever and never will.but may be a great driver.
i have one son who could never build or maintain a car ever and another who could.
some of the best motorcycle riders and car drivers have no set up or mechanical skills yet are very fast.
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:51 AM   #32
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I think you would find that Pro's cars aren't as special as we think. The motivation making them fast is in that 4 turn motor and the guy holding the transmitter. Their cars are really quite stock.
Not sure if you are agreeing with Joey or not, but there are lots of little secrets out there that aren't covered in setup sheets or RedRC photos. Think of it as using a different instruction manual than the one included in the box. Sure, with some cars the parts might be the same, or at least look the same to you, but I guarantee the car wasn't built the same. I know I personally handled quite a few cars at birds that might have looked stock in a RedRC article, but you would soon be asking questions if you saw it in-person.
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i think you have to remember some folks have no skills what so ever and never will.but may be a great driver.
i have one son who could never build or maintain a car ever and another who could.
some of the best motorcycle riders and car drivers have no set up or mechanical skills yet are very fast.
Yes, I agree that some are more mechanical skilled than others, but my point is if building a kit is absolutely impossible for you, your worries have just started.

Of course many young drivers have a father or other adult person to help them. but I have not met an adult driver at a reasonable level that ONLY drives and leaves the car to someone else, hence, it is more or less a "one man job" driving rc.

I bet, if you repel the mechanical aspects of rc, it will be a shortlived adventure.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:51 AM   #34
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I bet, if you repel the mechanical aspects of rc, it will be a shortlived adventure.
Or just an adventure with low expectations
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:52 AM   #35
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i think you have to remember some folks have no skills what so ever and never will.but may be a great driver.
i have one son who could never build or maintain a car ever and another who could.
some of the best motorcycle riders and car drivers have no set up or mechanical skills yet are very fast.
So long as they have a mechanic, they'd have a chance - left to rely on their own skillset, a new driver with great potential wouldn't stay around long enough to realize that potential.

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I bet, if you repel the mechanical aspects of rc, it will be a shortlived adventure.
Agreed... If you can't maintain your own equipment, you'll find yourself very frustrated after a very short time.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:56 AM   #36
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I would build kits for free (and I'm pretty good at it). Like others have said, it's one of my favorite parts of the hobby. There are more than a few times when I've bought a kit just because, "I wanted to build something."

If anyone is ever interested, you can PM me.
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Old 02-11-2015, 11:00 AM   #37
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I guess it depends on how techy you are. Some people do excel in driving and have no understanding why the car reacts the way it does. Now if that person gains the knowledge of car mechanics, it will further their development. That's what I meant by complete. I built my first car (Tamiya Sonic Fighter lol) with hand-me-down electronics from a friend's dad when I was in 4th grade. I still remember that day when I built the car all by myself, pretty happy, hooked ever since. Now if I had more driving skills..., but that's another topic
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Old 02-11-2015, 11:37 AM   #38
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Let's talk....would you pay another racer to build or set up your car?

I was discussing this with a friend and he was totally against it. I told him that I had given a local fast guy/ younger kid who was short on money, some money to help get my car in shape. At the time I didn't own a setup board, nor did I fully understand the dynamics of the car.

I'm a 40 yo father of 3 with a busy schedule and not a lot of time to tinker. I gave him my car....he "fixed" it and I gained better control and a lap or two. He gave me a setup sheet and a better understanding. Am I alone? Let's hear it.
j-millz you ever need a hand with your cars man feel free to come over to my pit ill help out in any way i can i should be at carworld on sunday
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Old 02-11-2015, 11:40 AM   #39
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I build kits for people all the time. Pm me if anyone needs a kit built.

95% of people are not patient enough to follow the directions/ don't know the little things that make a kit work well.
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Or just an adventure with low expectations
Or just VRC
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Never! Building is the best part of the hobby, to me at least. I spend roughly 90% of my hobby time tinkering and 10% on actual driving. Plus you don't really learn the car when you have it built for you.
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j-millz you ever need a hand with your cars man feel free to come over to my pit ill help out in any way i can i should be at carworld on sunday
Much appreciated.
I've gotten a lot better where I can diagnose the basic problems associated with setups. I even purchased a HUDY setup so at least the car goes straight. Lol. Now I gotta get that whole gear ratio and roll out thing down.
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:44 PM   #43
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I'm 31 and I bring my father to every RC races I do

I do enjoy working on my car but I prefer the electronics side and driving.

He dislike driving and prefer working on setup and maintenance (all night of the week).

So on race day, I focus on my driving and let him play with his 0.25 shim

The real win for me ... I got the chance to spent some 'good' time with my old man
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My lhs will build or setup or fix virtually anything. The guys they have working there are very competent, and a lot of the locals will bring in buggys before a race to get it setup better. Ive seen them building kits, restoring vehicles, etc.
Ive had them do soldering and build shocks for me, but I usually just do everything myself. But they do a much cleaner solder job than I can for super cheap.

/Good job Jakes Performance Hobbies!
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My lhs will build or setup or fix virtually anything. The guys they have working there are very competent, and a lot of the locals will bring in buggys before a race to get it setup better. Ive seen them building kits, restoring vehicles, etc.
Ive had them do soldering and build shocks for me, but I usually just do everything myself. But they do a much cleaner solder job than I can for super cheap.

/Good job Jakes Performance Hobbies!
You get your lhs to setup and repair your buggies before a race? What do you do if you crash or damage your buggy during a race or if track conditions change? Cry for "mommy"
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