robotronics vs. fantom
10-03-2005, 07:11 PM
#2
The Fantom is easier to use in my opinion.....
However, its LAME because it will only test a 5 volts, which any motor guy will tell you, a motor good at 5 volts, isn't always good at 7....which is what are cars run at....
The Fantom can also be easily tricked into thinking a motor is getting better with heavier and heavier springs, when track performance shows it wasn't. It also favors very RPMish motors......I can get it to say a stock motor makes more power than a zero degree timed 19t motor, which on the track, it doesn't.......
The Robi can have these problems, but not to the severity the Fantom can....
The guy who writes the software for Fantom, doesn't understand motors very well in my opinion.
Troy who runs Fantom has a custom version, which works at 7 volts....
The Robi's two biggest downfalls.....its pricey and its from Austria....so service and support can be a pain.
Later EddieO
However, its LAME because it will only test a 5 volts, which any motor guy will tell you, a motor good at 5 volts, isn't always good at 7....which is what are cars run at....
The Fantom can also be easily tricked into thinking a motor is getting better with heavier and heavier springs, when track performance shows it wasn't. It also favors very RPMish motors......I can get it to say a stock motor makes more power than a zero degree timed 19t motor, which on the track, it doesn't.......
The Robi can have these problems, but not to the severity the Fantom can....
The guy who writes the software for Fantom, doesn't understand motors very well in my opinion.
Troy who runs Fantom has a custom version, which works at 7 volts....
The Robi's two biggest downfalls.....its pricey and its from Austria....so service and support can be a pain.
Later EddieO
10-03-2005, 07:27 PM
#4
There is not a turn limit on the fantom I am aware of....
The upgrade on the fantom is really not something a consumer can get easily......
As for the Robi, early units had like a ten turn limit....however, newer units don't and older units can be sent in for the upgrade....I am not sure how much the upgrade is...
If you can get a Robi for under $500....its a much better deal....
Later EddieO
The upgrade on the fantom is really not something a consumer can get easily......
As for the Robi, early units had like a ten turn limit....however, newer units don't and older units can be sent in for the upgrade....I am not sure how much the upgrade is...
If you can get a Robi for under $500....its a much better deal....
Later EddieO
10-03-2005, 07:55 PM
#5
I realize that this is off topic, but since Eddie is on this thread I figure now is the time to ask. I have heard that the ERP magnet zapper sucks, but what exactly is the problem with it?
10-03-2005, 08:25 PM
#7
The way its design, when it actually finishes the zap, it PULLS energy back out of the magnets....
The only way you could get it to work is if you could keep it active and charging the entire time with the motor still on it.....though that would make your car pretty hard to drive around...
Tres is right, makes a good anchor for a feather.
I have one though, for my motor museum....
Later EddieO
The only way you could get it to work is if you could keep it active and charging the entire time with the motor still on it.....though that would make your car pretty hard to drive around...
Tres is right, makes a good anchor for a feather.
I have one though, for my motor museum....
Later EddieO
10-04-2005, 12:50 PM
#12
you will never find the turbo dyno at a "cheap" price
10-04-2005, 05:16 PM
#13
Originally Posted by BrentL
you will never find the turbo dyno at a "cheap" price
10-04-2005, 10:22 PM
#14
No one makes real dyno any more? There must be a reason? Money....Money....& money. Make it in china for $10.00 & sale it here for $1500.00, lots of guys would buy it. We need just one to get the ball rolling.
10-04-2005, 11:02 PM
#15
Originally Posted by BrentL
you will never find the turbo dyno at a "cheap" price
I don't even think you can get those HP infrared printers anymore and they sold for around $200 new if I remember correctly.
