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Old 01-14-2015, 06:31 AM   #1
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For those of you racing with ARS or ATS, do you feel like it really works well or is it just a marketing gimmick? Any input would be appreciated.
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Old 01-14-2015, 09:34 AM   #2
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I feel it allows me to drive deeper into the corner on power without spinning as easily.
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It seems that ARS does not work on carpet. Have never seen a driver with ARS on carpet.
On asphalt is the Xray with ARS very very fast.
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Why dose it work on asphalt but not on carpet ??
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Makes my car (on carpet) feel broken. :-(
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Most of the guys at our track (carpet) have taken it off.
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EA used it at IIC with good success. I've used it on high and medium traction carpet. Car was the best it's ever been using ARS on high traction. I didn't like it on medium traction but didn't play with it too much then. Was also using the TT aluminum chassis. It definitely makes the car feel and drive different.

I do find it funny that some people raved about the same thing on the awesomatix but then say how it doesn't work on an Xray. It's another option that hasn't been explored as much as other options. Some will like it, some wont.
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Most of the guys at our track (carpet) have taken it off.
Except for the fastest guy here

I like it. It is challenging to set-up, but good once it gets going.

One issue that I found is that the ARS makes the rear really narrow on the XRAY, so I have found that adding shims to widen track width between the wheel and the hex helps make the car much better. The car seems to just roll too much when set up very narrow.

Personally I have it set up to where it has close to Zero toe gain/loss. I like it because I can set my car to have exact rear toe and I can also use fine increments of it. However the Toe gain/loss made the car inconsistent. I set the pills at max width RF and 0.5 in on the RR. The rest of the toe I add with the turnbuckles. I go between 2.25 and 2.5 degrees of rear toe most of the time and also have a 0.5mm shim raising the RR and RF Suspension mounts from the center pill position. (Also helps control rear toe)

Now does it make the car better or worse? Both. Set up correctly is a nice addition that can simplify the rear end adjustment and unlock unlimited rear toe settings. When set up wrong, as Syndrome stated, can make the car feel like its broken.
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BMT had it back in 1994 and I did love it. It was continued on the BMT 95R but it was gone on the 1996 Pantera. Serpent had it on their 710 or 720 but with the follow up car it was gone and never came back.

So we will see if it will stay ar Xray....
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Adding toe at the hinges or hub carrier have different effects too so while it may make things complicated, it is a welcome setup imo.
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ATS works well on low to high traction asphalt. Havent tried it yet on carpet. Will let you know on Feb 7th.
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Josh-n-ya, could you please post your ATS setting for low traction, technical track for ARC?
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ATS works well on low to high traction asphalt. Havent tried it yet on carpet. Will let you know on Feb 7th.
You coming down to Chino ? Carpet is not high grip there at Tq.
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Josh-n-ya, could you please post your ATS setting for low traction, technical track for ARC?
I will soon

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You coming down to Chino ? Carpet is not high grip there at Tq.
No. We are waiting for a carpet track to get going up here in Stockton.
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EA used it at IIC with good success. I've used it on high and medium traction carpet. Car was the best it's ever been using ARS on high traction. I didn't like it on medium traction but didn't play with it too much then. Was also using the TT aluminum chassis. It definitely makes the car feel and drive different.

I do find it funny that some people raved about the same thing on the awesomatix but then say how it doesn't work on an Xray. It's another option that hasn't been explored as much as other options. Some will like it, some wont.
All the setups I have seen for the Awesomatix no one has mentioned the use of this option, unless the guy at your track are using it. I have tried it on both carpet and asphalt and could not get the car to feel consistent. I think this option takes the right track conditions to work, but it is not a game changer for any chassis it is used on. Bottom line is that if you feel it works for you then use it.

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