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Old 01-15-2015, 09:38 AM   #31
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Interesting lists and chat.

One thing of note is the Paulie is more or less regarded as the top touring car racer in the USA by most of us. If he was a top offroad driver he would be a full-time paid Pro similar to the "Ryans, Tebo, and other top USA offroad drivers.

Of this list who is actually working in the industry?

Burch - employee of Xray still?
Cyrul - NavistarI think (Works for GM as a Corvette Engineer)
Hardman - ? (hes like 15 now and in school)
Haynes - ? (Service writer at a Honda Store)
Hebert - ? (full time racer)
Hohwart - works at/for Associated
Knudtson - ? (Full time job)
Lemieux - For sure not a full time paid Pro Runs Gravity RC on the side.
Lia - ? (His dad owns several dealerships and he runs them)
Wang - College kid :P
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With all that said, who knows if Paulie wants to be a full time Pro and paid to travel/race. Just pointing out the big gap between on and offroad Pros. Of course a lot of people on this list run both on/offroad so there's a difference to note there also.

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I'd add Weylin Rose to the list of TC guys who were throwing down back in the day.
Filled in your blanks.

And I agree with what Luke Hobson said.


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This is such a subjective question, so I'll try to be objective. This is the top 10 overall drivers as I see them, in ranked in specific order.

These guys could wheel any type of on road car, stock or mod and place top 5 in every category when they race. These are also the guys that are based in NA, and attend races more regularly.

The shoe ins-
1.Keven Hebert- while he does not have the overall TC wins of other guys, he is the only one that will be top 5 on asphalt or carpet, TC or 12th scale. He ranks this high more because he is either number 1 or 2 in 12th scale in NA and 3-4 in TC.
2.Paul Lemieux- Paul is still the undisputed best TC driver in the USA. He could be higher, but he does not race as much 12th and does not finish as high racing 12th.
3.Josh Cyrul- Josh is having a renaissance late in his now "Amateur" racing career. His asphalt TC results hurt him a bit on the list, but Josh has been the hottest American racer on the rug over the past year.
4.Rick Hohwart- the man, the legend is still getting it done when he attends an event. Probably the second best TC driver in NA.
5.Andrew Hardman- Andrew has come a long way. The kid is raw skill and the wins are starting to tally up.

The next group
5.5 Mike Haynes: leads the "next" group. Can always challenge for a win, in any class.
6.Drew Ellis: Faster than fast, Drew can wheel any type of car and often gets the hottest laps.
7.Donny Lia: when he races, he is a nearly unstoppable force in 12th scale.
8.Cory Parsons: very fast guy that can drive anything on rubber tires. Super fast TC mod guy. Need to stop racing VTA bud
9.Kody Knutdson: current Mod TC champ. Needs to travel more to be ranked higher, but the skill Kody has is very high can drive (and fly) anything.
10.Chris Adams: I race with this guy often and know first hand how fast he is. Chris is super smooth and talented. Top non factory USA guy at world's last year.

There might be other guys that could be argued to be in it, but until they don't get mod results they do not belong as top 10 guys (not that they don't have the skill, that's 2 different things. These guys in the list above would rock the House in spec classes as well- and often do). Modified is harder to drive (not necessarily more competitive or harder to win) and often driving mod translates over to spec classes while spec does not translate over to mod. Spec racing has it's merits, but is also far easier to drive and more equipment dependant.

(*edit- forgot Mike Haynes).
Thanks for helping, What I will do is separate categories up in class
Modified, Stock, Nitro
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Filled in your blanks.

And I agree with what Luke Hobson said.


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Top On-Road Drivers by Class...Modified, Stock & Nitro

Modified Top RC racers:
Ralph Burch
Paul Lemieux
Josh Cyrul
Rick Howhart
Drew Ellis
JJ Wang
Andrew Hardman
Keven Hebert
Chris Adams
Dave Ehrlich
Fred Hubbard
Sean Williams
Randy Caster
Barry Baker
Steve Weiss
Kody Knudtson
Mike Haynes
Cory Parsons

Stock 13.5, 17.5 Top RC Racers:
Josh Cyrul
Rick Howhart
Drew Ellis
Donny Lia
Ray Darroch
Andrew Knapp
Fred Hubbard
Eric "EA" Anderson
Larry
Sean Williams
Mike Hanulec
EJ Evans
Kyle Klingforth
Brain Wynn
Cory Parsons
Craig X
Robbie D
Mark Smyka
Gonzalo Cortez

Nitro Top RC Racers:
Mike Swauger
Paolo Morganti
Scotty Gray
DJ Apolaro
Ralph Burch
Paul Lemieux
Gael Lambre
JJ Wang
Joseph Wright
Vincent Jackson
Jamie Corrado
Joseph Wright
Vincent Jackson
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Burch
Cyrul
Hardman
Haynes
Hebert
Hohwart
Knudtson
Lemieux
Lia
Wang
I had the exact same list.
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I agree mostly with Cristian. There's many, many very very good racers in the US, many of which don't run regularly or don't go to big races often. It turns into a top 100 list pretty fast. Raising the bar to only people who have been consistently on podiums in mod classes at big races over a few years, the list is trimmed substantially. And I do think looking at the podium is appropriate, with the lackluster attendance and competitiveness in mod classes at big races. There's often a full lap gap between 1st and 4th in mod TC. In 12th it can be 2 laps between Hebert or Lia and everyone else.

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Top On-Road Drivers by Class...Modified, Stock & Nitro

Modified Top RC racers:
  1. Ralph Burch
  2. Paul Lemieux
  3. Josh Cyrul
  4. Rick Howhart
  5. JJ Wang
  6. Andrew Hardman
  7. Kody Knudtson
  8. Keven Hebert
  9. Donny Lia
  10. Mike Haynes
Drew Ellis
Chris Adams
Sean Williams
Randy Caster
Barry Baker
Steve Weiss
Cory Parsons
Fred Hubbard
Dave Ehrlich

Stock 13.5, 17.5 Top RC Racers:
Josh Cyrul
Rick Howhart
Drew Ellis
Ray Darroch
Keven Hebert
Andrew Knapp
Fred Hubbard
Eric "EA" Anderson
Larry
Sean Williams
Mike Hanulec
EJ Evans
Kyle Klingforth
Brain Wynn
Cory Parsons
Craig X
Robbie D
Mark Smyka
Gonzalo Cortez
John Wiita
Bill Sydor
Brad Johnson

Nitro Top RC Racers:
Mike Swauger
Paolo Morganti
Scotty Gray
DJ Apolaro
Ralph Burch
Paul Lemieux
Gael Lambre
JJ Wang
Joseph Wright
Vincent Jackson
Jamie Corrado
Joseph Wright
Vincent Jackson
Paul "Chicky" Ciccarelo
Diatta Collymore
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John Wiita, Paul "Chicky" Ciccarelo, Bill Sydor?????
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Interesting lists and chat.

One thing of note is the Paulie is more or less regarded as the top touring car racer in the USA by most of us. If he was a top offroad driver he would be a full-time paid Pro similar to the "Ryans, Tebo, and other top USA offroad drivers.

Of this list who is actually working in the industry?

Burch - employee of Xray still?
Cyrul - NavistarI think
Hardman - ?
Haynes - ?
Hebert - ?
Hohwart - works at/for Associated
Knudtson - ?
Lemieux - For sure not a full time paid Pro Runs Gravity RC on the side.
Lia - ?
Wang - College kid :P
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With all that said, who knows if Paulie wants to be a full time Pro and paid to travel/race. Just pointing out the big gap between on and offroad Pros. Of course a lot of people on this list run both on/offroad so there's a difference to note there also.

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I'd add Weylin Rose to the list of TC guys who were throwing down back in the day.
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So many fast guys but really if we are listing the best of the best the list should be TC modified.

Might as well throw Brad Johnson in the mix if we're talking 17.5/13.5 guys.
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I forgot to mention the one name that makes all the Amains everywhere with a huge burger in hand, the professor's kid, the FBF legend, the myth himself: " DIATTA COLLYMORE".....
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Top On-Road Drivers by Class...Modified, Stock & Nitro

Modified Top RC racers:
  1. Ralph Burch
  2. Paul Lemieux
  3. Josh Cyrul
  4. Rick Howhart
  5. JJ Wang
  6. Andrew Hardman
  7. Kody Knudtson
  8. Keven Hebert
  9. Donny Lia
  10. Mike Haynes
Drew Ellis
Chris Adams
Sean Williams
Randy Caster
Barry Baker
Steve Weiss
Cory Parsons
Fred Hubbard
Dave Ehrlich

Stock 13.5, 17.5 Top RC Racers:
Josh Cyrul
Rick Howhart
Drew Ellis
Ray Darroch
Keven Hebert
Andrew Knapp
Eric "EA" Anderson
Larry
Sean Williams
Mike Hanulec
EJ Evans
Kyle Klingforth
Brain Wynn
Cory Parsons
Craig X
Robbie D
Mark Smyka
Gonzalo Cortez
John Wiita
Bill Sydor
Brad Johnson

Nitro Top RC Racers:
Mike Swauger
Paolo Morganti
Scotty Gray
DJ Apolaro
Ralph Burch
Paul Lemieux
Gael Lambre
Art Carbonell
JJ Wang
Joseph Wright
Vincent Jackson
Jamie Corrado
Joseph Wright
Vincent Jackson
Paul "Chicky" Ciccarelo
Diatta Collymore
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Ryan Cavalieri doesn't race onroad often, but when he does, he's extremely quick.

Ivan, Andrew Hardman is 16 now, I think. When I first raced him he was 11 and wore a cookie monster baseball cap. Getting destroyed by a little kid wearing a cookie monster hat was quite humbling, I must say.
lol. He's gotta bust out that hat at the Snowbirds. Then the rest of North America can see the pain we had to endure. Not bad enough losing to someone a third your age - but the hat really did add insult to injury huh.
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It's easier for kids to Rc Race all the time, since they don't have to work for a living... Most of the worlds top drivers are under 35years old...
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