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Old 11-26-2014, 12:10 PM   #1
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Ive been running this motor for about 2 races now. Im running 4.3 ratio with the timing all the way down. I want to make it faster and dont know how. Everytime i turn the timing up it actually slows down. I tried 4.7 gear ratio with the timing all the way up but it was actually slower. What could i do.
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What temperature does it come off at?

Going from 4.3 to 4.7 is a big jump in gearing - I would never make that big of a jump, once you are in the ballpark you only need to go one tooth at a time to find the sweet spot.

Also, going "all the way up" with timing is mostly likely going to be far too much.

Sounds like you just need to experiment more with small steps (like half a notch as on the team powers cans). Go to around 4.4 gearing and slowly bump up the timing and run it for 4 or 5 minutes, periodically checking the temp.

I am to have my motors come off no lower than 150* and no higher than 180* so I work my gearing and timing until I achieve that.

If you bump up the timing and see a big increase in heat and a decrease in speed (or no change in speed) then you went too far. Back it off a bit and run it again. Then you can tweak your gearing from there.

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Old 11-26-2014, 12:26 PM   #3
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We need a little more information to give you a better answer:
- Class
- Chassis Type
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- Track size/Layout difficulty
- Blinky or Boosted?

Are we to assume you're using this motor in a touring car?
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13.5 blinky tc. The only reason i jumped to 4.7 is because one of the racers at my local track with this motor told me to try that. That some of the team drivers are running it at 4.7 with timing all the way up. My temp is at 150, i wanna push it to 180.
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:57 PM   #5
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Simple, gear up to teeth and crank the timing. It should go faster, the question is for how long.
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I tried that, it slowed down
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Not to sound like an a--hole but are you sure you turned the timing the right direction? The Powers motor is a little confusing and I know a well known and good racer that made the same mistake. The endbell plate will turn counter clockwise to turn the timing up all the way. But when you look at it your turning it away from the + sign on the can. So its a little confusing. This could be the only reason I could think of it going slower when you turn it up (Your actually all the way up and your turning it down).

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At IIC I ran the Powers in 13.5 turned all the way up (To the 4) and geared at a 4.3. It was plenty fast!!!

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I made sure im turning it the right way. The motor is fast, but i just wanna push it a little more.
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I made sure im turning it the right way. The motor is fast, but i just wanna push it a little more.
So yours is turned like this now then? This is full timing.

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Yea mines like that.
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So yours is turned like this now then? This is full timing.

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What is the actual timing with it cranked all the way EA ?
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I think someone said the motorlyser puts them at 60 cranked but EA will know for sure.
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One has mark off full timing
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-4 = 20
0 = 40
+4 =60

All +/- 2 degrees on ave.
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