R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-12-2015, 05:03 AM   #511
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 68
Default Thanks

Hi mate

I appreciate that.

Can I also ask can springs like HPI Pinks and Silvers fit, or are they too long?

thanks

Lohan
Loheswaran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 05:11 AM   #512
Tech Regular
 
Fredp1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 340
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Hopefully someone has tried them, but what overall length are they and what is the inside diameter?
The vbc are about 22.5mm long and 13.8mm inside diameter.
__________________
Dean(14 years old)- Awesomatix A800X, Fantom FR-1 5.0 Motor, Fantom batteries, KO Propo
Dean(14 years old)- Roche P12-2017, Fantom FR-1 4.5 Motor, Fantom batteries, Team Powers Radon Pro 1s
Evan(8 years old)- VBC Wildfire D06 Dynamics, Hobbywing Extreme Stock, XERUN V10 21.5, Fantom batteries, KO Propo
Fredp1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 05:27 AM   #513
Tech Regular
 
midse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 329
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

I've got Team Powers Radon V2 ESC, Team Powers Actinium 13.5 and Team Powers 6200mah 100c lightweight 285g lipo, Team powers X booster Futaba Bls551 servo and Futaba R614FFe receiver. Twin WTF 40mm fans for hot summers. Hiro Seiko Ti below and alloy on top...Kit steel screws on the top deck to avoid tweak that alloy allows.
Alloy rear body post wing stiffener.
Alloy front spool with Roche out drives - VBC steel out drives at rear. Roche/Radtec Dcj. Protoform lightweight body ...Mazda speed 6
Volante V5
1385g....
I have had it down to 1330grams with the same body but different parts/shorter wiring.

Correct setup is a lot more important than lowering the weight
__________________
Melbourne

Last edited by midse; 07-12-2015 at 07:35 AM.
midse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 10:42 AM   #514
DBM
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Saskatoon, Canada
Posts: 618
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by midse View Post

I have had it down to 1330grams with the same body but different parts/shorter wiring.

Correct setup is a lot more important than lowering the weight
I feel that I'm pretty close on setup, but also feel that carrying around 40g of extra weight is not good.
I installed a stock soft spec-r bumper which saved 10.1g. Lighter lipo is next on my list.
I assume you are running the cf chassis? The aluminum chassis is a good bit heavier which makes getting down to 1380 pretty tricky. I'm sticking with the cf chassis.
__________________
VBC D08, D07, D06 Dynamics, Ghost EVO, Lightning 12v2, Serpent S100LT, Speed Passion SP1, Tamiya M05v2
DBM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2015, 04:43 AM   #515
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sarasota FL
Posts: 2,029
Trader Rating: 48 (94%+)
Default

I'm in the middle of building my D07 and I can't get the lf hub figgerd out. It keeps binding up at the axle. Other than that this kit rocks. Can't wait to get it on the track. I love the laser arowes on the turnbuckles. More kits need to do this.
tcb22185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2015, 12:31 AM   #516
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 68
Default Set up questions

Dear chaps

I tried my wildfire out yesterday and found that the kit setting gave the car a tendency to keep losing the back on corner entry in high grip carpet. I thought it was my driving so I got one of the better drivers to have a go, and they had the same problem.

Question:
1. Is that what others have experienced with the car?
2. Which is the best set up that doesn't need optional parts (i have loads of oils and shims)

let me know
thanks
Loheswaran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2015, 04:10 AM   #517
Tech Apprentice
 
XSLR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 99
Default

What rear Diff oil are you using? what motor?
XSLR8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2015, 09:59 AM   #518
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 68
Default well

Quote:
Originally Posted by XSLR8 View Post
What rear Diff oil are you using? what motor?
Hi mate

I have used all the oils as per the kit - i think that's 1000. I did think thiss may well be the problem. I have 3000, 7000, and 10,000 available. I was thinking of trying out the 7000
Loheswaran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2015, 02:44 PM   #519
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 161
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loheswaran View Post
Dear chaps

I tried my wildfire out yesterday and found that the kit setting gave the car a tendency to keep losing the back on corner entry in high grip carpet. I thought it was my driving so I got one of the better drivers to have a go, and they had the same problem.

Question:
1. Is that what others have experienced with the car?
2. Which is the best set up that doesn't need optional parts (i have loads of oils and shims)

let me know
thanks
Adjust your droop settings and you should be able to fix this problem.
Rodney Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2015, 12:52 AM   #520
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 102
Default

Hello,
For high traction carpet, you can start with this setup : http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/vbcracing/setupwildfired07/WFD07_NicolasDelise_Longwy20150222/

It's my basic setup for carpet. Easy and fast!
nicoo2k4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2015, 01:28 AM   #521
Tech Apprentice
 
XSLR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 99
Default

[QUOTE=Loheswaran;14101711]Hi mate

I have used all the oils as per the kit - i think that's 1000. I did think thiss may well be the problem. I have 3000, 7000, and 10,000 available. I was thinking of trying out the 7000


Your diff oil is to light, depending on which class you run I would start at the 3000 (minimum) for slower classes and work your way up to 10,000-15,000 for modified, this is where it is handy having spare diffs with different oils already to go.
Also I would check your rear droop settings as having to much rear droop could also be a factor.
XSLR8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2015, 02:27 PM   #522
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 68
Default

[QUOTE=XSLR8;14102755]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loheswaran View Post
Hi mate

I have used all the oils as per the kit - i think that's 1000. I did think thiss may well be the problem. I have 3000, 7000, and 10,000 available. I was thinking of trying out the 7000


Your diff oil is to light, depending on which class you run I would start at the 3000 (minimum) for slower classes and work your way up to 10,000-15,000 for modified, this is where it is handy having spare diffs with different oils already to go.
Also I would check your rear droop settings as having to much rear droop could also be a factor.
Mi M8

I have put some 7k in the diff, as it was my 'in between' oil - I will report back - I like doing 1 set up change at a time, so, here goes
Loheswaran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2015, 04:39 PM   #523
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 68
Default Car set up

Dear all

I thought I would post some of findings this weekend.

I found kit set-up far too loose at the back - very tetchy and difficult to drive (on carpet)
put 7000 wt diff oil - car fealt much better and more stable - unfortunately tyre screatch continued unabated.
I then decided to detach the roll bars, and the car came alive - much more sete pin carriertled into corners and smother - 1 second a lap improvement from 12.55 too 11.50
Next big change was to add a bit of front anti-dive whereby i placed o.5 shim under the front inner hinge holder.
again another improvement from 1150 to 11.42
I moved the inner links at the back upwards - problem was I ran out of time.
This car is very sensitive to set up changes - more so than my last car - Xray 2012 - it is a lovely piece of kit

thanks

Lohan
Loheswaran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2015, 08:08 PM   #524
Tech Regular
 
midse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 329
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default Chassis

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBM View Post
I feel that I'm pretty close on setup, but also feel that carrying around 40g of extra weight is not good.
I installed a stock soft spec-r bumper which saved 10.1g. Lighter lipo is next on my list.
I assume you are running the cf chassis? The aluminum chassis is a good bit heavier which makes getting down to 1380 pretty tricky. I'm sticking with the cf chassis.
I had my best run last week with a RW PF speed 6 and a friends 340g lipo. Very high grip track using Volante 28 prepped with LRP carpet. on a cold night. Pretty sure it was up around the 1450g mark.

If you're intent on staying with the alloy chassis then contact Paul at Bezerk Rc on facebook. Let him know your setup and track type/conditions. He can mill reliefs ( for flex) into a VBC Alu chassis or from a new blank to suit your needs. Be mindful that Alu. chassis are effectively a one hit wonder. Once they're bent, they're done. His CF and Alu. parts have been aboard many local and international title winning cars. I think even one of his D07 alloy chassis placed at a major Euro event.


https://m.facebook.com/BezerkRc?refs...com%2FBezerkRc
__________________
Melbourne
midse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2015, 09:15 AM   #525
DBM
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Saskatoon, Canada
Posts: 618
Default

I milled my aluminum chassis a couple of weeks after I bought the car (I have a little milling machine in my shop....nothing fancy). Serpent employ a 2mm aluminum chassis in the eryx 3.0, but it is milled down to 1mm under the battery and electronics. I didn't want to go that far, so I removed 0.7mm which resulted in a 18g weight savings, but is still heavier than the thick 2.5mm cf chassis.
My car is already heavy on the batter side with a 307g battery. I made new battery holders to move the battery closer to the center of the car, too. Running a 340g lipo would make the car ~60g heavier on the battery side than the motor side. I can't see that being a good thing, unless the track is all right turns.



Quote:
Originally Posted by midse View Post
I had my best run last week with a RW PF speed 6 and a friends 340g lipo. Very high grip track using Volante 28 prepped with LRP carpet. on a cold night. Pretty sure it was up around the 1450g mark.

If you're intent on staying with the alloy chassis then contact Paul at Bezerk Rc on facebook. Let him know your setup and track type/conditions. He can mill reliefs ( for flex) into a VBC Alu chassis or from a new blank to suit your needs. Be mindful that Alu. chassis are effectively a one hit wonder. Once they're bent, they're done. His CF and Alu. parts have been aboard many local and international title winning cars. I think even one of his D07 alloy chassis placed at a major Euro event.


https://m.facebook.com/BezerkRc?refs...com%2FBezerkRc
Attached Thumbnails
VBC WILDFIRE D07-20141128_220359%7E01.jpg  
DBM is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 11:20 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net