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Old 10-03-2014, 04:52 PM   #91
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Maybe we will see something really odd like a battery through the belt and a front motor

Looking forward to seeing something different. Hopefully. Not using typical coil overs would be cool. Lots of examples in the real world of this that aren't like the AMX (torsion rods in F1 for example)
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Inboard shocks would bea neat concept on a race level tc. I know tamiya has it as on option on one of their chassis. But only for the front
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Im usually an out of the box thinker, but the only belt system that really makes any sense and to be a radical departure from todays TC's is a JRXS/JRXS-R set-up. The type - r only came to be because they used the rotation force of the motor to help produce more rear grip. But with brushless motors the motor in the middle would work great and with low pro-servos the norm in racing, space is a non-issue. Due to ROAR rules, the car will have to accept iether a full size lipo or a saddle. It cant be designed around a shorty or square pack. But it could be made to where that is the optimal battery. Short servo, motor, esc/rx, then shorty batt... all down the middle. A three belt design as in the 22-4 isnt likely as the more belts you have the less efficient the drive system.
I like the olden days when manufactures explored different possibilities.
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Hope it is shaft. Being a belt will probably be like every other tc.
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Changing out diffs is alot different then changing out a spur. Every other car made now has around 2.0 internal to include your T4.
Unless the car comes prebuilt the correct gears would be installed during the build, unless the owner is a complete retard and chooses to do it later. This isn't exactly high level problem solving here.
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Im usually an out of the box thinker, but the only belt system that really makes any sense and to be a radical departure from todays TC's is a JRXS/JRXS-R set-up. The type - r only came to be because they used the rotation force of the motor to help produce more rear grip. But with brushless motors the motor in the middle would work great and with low pro-servos the norm in racing, space is a non-issue. Due to ROAR rules, the car will have to accept iether a full size lipo or a saddle. It cant be designed around a shorty or square pack. But it could be made to where that is the optimal battery. Short servo, motor, esc/rx, then shorty batt... all down the middle. A three belt design as in the 22-4 isnt likely as the more belts you have the less efficient the drive system.
Wasn't too long ago Team Magic e4rs came out with a three belt design, and what do you know, TM e4rs v. II had a conventional two belt design...
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Old 10-04-2014, 03:51 AM   #97
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Unless the car comes prebuilt the correct gears would be installed during the build, unless the owner is a complete retard and chooses to do it later. This isn't exactly high level problem solving here.
Im not sure what your trying to say? I was referring to the fact that it was mentioned a different chassis diff gears fit the evo 6 to change the internal gear ratio to bring it closer to 2.0.

Having a ratio close to 2.0 from the factory is more versital than 2.5 with modern motors and classes. This gives you a wider range of pinion/spure combos without having to get crazy with very large pinions and small spurs, grinding the motor mounts or chassis, or buying a different chassis diffs to get desired ratio.
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Im not sure what your trying to say? I was referring to the fact that it was mentioned a different chassis diff gears fit the evo 6 to change the internal gear ratio to bring it closer to 2.0.

Having a ratio close to 2.0 from the factory is more versital than 2.5 with modern motors and classes. This gives you a wider range of pinion/spure combos without having to get crazy with very large pinions and small spurs, grinding the motor mounts or chassis, or buying a different chassis diffs to get desired ratio.
Ok, let me simplify. Anyone but an inbred dullard would choose the gears to give them the desired internal gear ratio during the build. That help? Guessing someone buying a $600 kit (which it isn't) should be able to handle that. Either that or stick to $100 SPEC-Rs or TC4s if they want to run 25.5. Plenty of options for those unable to handle a gear change.
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Ahhhh now I get it. I am an inbred dullard. Must be true since im from the south. However, reading your abortion of a grammatically correct sentance leads me to believe everyone but inbred dullards choose gears that suite the internal rationof their choosing. I, and I may be wrong because im inbred, think you intended to say ONLY on inbred dullard would choose... well you get where I am going. Otherwise, in your first statement you claim only a retard would change the internal ratio, and now you are saying anyone but an inbred dullard. The only other explination is that the retards are a different group than the inbred dullards. If thats true, there are a whole lot of special people in this hobby, and I for one am ad your here to show us all the path to salvation.
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Ok, let me simplify. Anyone but an inbred dullard would choose the gears to give them the desired internal gear ratio during the build. That help? Guessing someone buying a $600 kit (which it isn't) should be able to handle that. Either that or stick to $100 SPEC-Rs or TC4s if they want to run 25.5. Plenty of options for those unable to handle a gear change.
Its not a matter of being capable of changing gears. Its the fact that they don't include gears that give an internal drive ratio that will work with any motor with only a pinion/spur change. At the end of the day, it's only $12 and slight modification but people who buy $600 kits tend to expect more. Does it make sense now?
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Its not a matter of being capable of changing gears. Its the fact that they don't include gears that give an internal drive ratio that will work with any motor with only a pinion/spur change. At the end of the day, it's only $12 and slight modification but people who buy $600 kits tend to expect more. Does it make sense now?
And anyone has the right to not buy the car if they feel it is such a burden. I agree it would be ideal if the internal ratio was different but a $12 expenditure on some gears would quickly be forgotten given the stupid amount of money I've dropped on other items.
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Ahhhh now I get it. I am an inbred dullard. Must be true since im from the south.
I didn't say that but if the shoe fits.....

And if you plan on being sentence structure Nazi maybe you should check your own spelling and punctuation. "im from the south" That is so good it is sig worthy.
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this thread just went to $hit. lol
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They better release some pictures soon before this really gets off topic
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Wow, I come back a day later and this thread went down the toilet. Someone post some spy pics hurry
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