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Old 10-08-2014, 11:02 AM   #181
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Its a Pro D from maybe 1-2 years ago
Ahh, I'm not familiar with drift chassis setups and didn't see it on their website.

Seemed like a lot of weight at the back.
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Waaaaiiiiiit...... what? Is that it? Crazy setup!
No that's the hpi pro d
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:04 AM   #183
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......I would lean more towards the Yok.....

but we can still hope that it might be something radical
It's a drift car they put the lips way bk there to get the bk out
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Which has more "flow"? hmmm...

Maybe HB is going single belt!

edit- this looks interesting:

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Old 10-08-2014, 11:13 AM   #185
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Which has more "flow"? hmmm...

Maybe HB is going single belt!

edit- this looks interesting:

I got that last pro 3 pictured it's the battle axe
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I got that last pro 3 pictured it's the battle axe
It's A full graphite pro3
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:54 AM   #187
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I got that last pro 3 pictured it's the battle axe
My PRO 3 looks similar to the graphite one. It looks much better though. I haven't had the chance to drive it yet because I haven't installed the new electronics. That'll hold me over until the PRO 5 gets here.
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Old 10-08-2014, 12:40 PM   #188
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What we're expecting: The most innovative touring car in years that's a combination of shaft drive, central battery and a whole new take on shocks.

What we'll get: a BD7 with orange bits and poor parts support.

I was a Pro2 driver back in the day and absolutely loved it. I'd love to see something as creative as the Pro3, even if it doesn't work out I just want to see something different!
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I guess we will find out tomorrow....LiveRC said Pro 5 will be debut tomorrow.
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Who knows? Maybe the Pro 5 suspension will look something like this...

... only with much higher quality plastic and aluminum.
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I feel that the Pro 5 will either continue being a shaft-driven car (with a Tamiya TB04 motor mounting treatment) or they are going back to the Pro 2-style/TCXX belt drive again. It would be nice if the car went back to being belt-driven (as the Pro 2 was one of their best electric offerings before the HB Cyclone series). If HPI wants to be relavent again, they need to get back to the balance they had between the track racer and basher and offer better quality products (less Vaterra/Traxxas-like).
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Who knows? Maybe the Pro 5 suspension will look something like this...

... only with much higher quality plastic and aluminum.
The problem with that layout is if any air gets in the shock, it will become inconsistent. The Tamiya IFS cars have the shocks angled somewhat to get around this.
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Can you guys inform me of what's the issue with the S2 layout? I would assume it to be one of the most balanced layouts. I had one for bashing and when I took it to one of the local hobby shop I was old it wasn't fit in a sense (for competitive racing) and I just went to buy a more conventional Kit to race.
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Well take a look. A high mounted spur and pully to get belt over the motor, and a transverse or widely spaced saddle packs. This is going to translate into alot of chassis roll. The goal of any design is to minimize that. Thats why the pro 3 and the JRXS went with wide belts and put everything down the middle. Thats why the stubby t-rex arms on the losi were effective, they didnt need alot of travel as there was very little chassis roll to deal with. The shorter arms also affected camber gain more than longer arms. But now we are getting into the complexities of touring car suspension, and I'll leave the big stuff to the engineers.
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Actually, with a saddle pack set up you can get the batteries in closer than with the current sedan layouts because the belt layshaft pulleys would be dead center (unlike they are right now, with a spur in the middle of them) with a slightly offset spur. Also, the motor is able to be located dead center on the chassis. The slightly higher layshaft can be negated with the more centralized weight of the car. With an aluminum chassis, and/or short shocks, the car can have as low of a cg and polar movement as anything out there (save maybe the Awesomatix).

The issue with the Pro3 and Losi was always the radically offset pulleys on the diffs. This did not allow closely mounted bulkheads and forced the designs into running short A-Arms.

Everything has a compromise in design, but the possibilities and layouts are exciting. I guess we'll get to see tomorrow.
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