Integy Charger
09-02-2005, 05:08 PM
#19
Originally Posted by Cole Trickle
Actually, I've already explained it. On this forum.
Ask yourself a question: Is it most reasonably, that I spend time repeating the answer yet another time or that you do your homework and dig it up yourself?
Some of the Integy chargers is capable of shorting battery life, even frying them, if special care aint taken.
Fortunately, I dont get payed for helping people here, so I dont accept unreasonably attitudes
Ask yourself a question: Is it most reasonably, that I spend time repeating the answer yet another time or that you do your homework and dig it up yourself?
Some of the Integy chargers is capable of shorting battery life, even frying them, if special care aint taken.
Fortunately, I dont get payed for helping people here, so I dont accept unreasonably attitudes
If you had said you made a post about it, I'm sure most of this could have been avoided. "Homework" can also mean hours of googling for something, vs. a search for Cole Trickle posts here....
09-02-2005, 05:11 PM
#20
Homework time
"These chargers certainly have the bells and whistles, but I certainly hope that Eagle/Integy have changed the peak detection algorithm;
The Eagle CDC v6B pushes the cells harder. At 26 degrees Celsius (79F) ambient temperature, my GP3300 peaks at 60 deg. C (F140). This is with 6 amps charge rate and 3 mV pr. cell cut off.
With AA 2300, the charger seems to have a problem with the cut off - I've seen an example where the charger charged for 7 hours....
The good thing about this way of charging, is high punch and the charger never false peaks. But the cells certainly gets hot !
All the new gadgets, cant make up for this design flaw - or maybe the temperature cut off can But then again, forget mounting the temp probe...."
The Eagle CDC v6B pushes the cells harder. At 26 degrees Celsius (79F) ambient temperature, my GP3300 peaks at 60 deg. C (F140). This is with 6 amps charge rate and 3 mV pr. cell cut off.
With AA 2300, the charger seems to have a problem with the cut off - I've seen an example where the charger charged for 7 hours....
The good thing about this way of charging, is high punch and the charger never false peaks. But the cells certainly gets hot !
All the new gadgets, cant make up for this design flaw - or maybe the temperature cut off can But then again, forget mounting the temp probe...."
09-02-2005, 05:12 PM
#21
From the desk of: CT
" Quote:
Originally Posted by noobie
Eagle Racing (#1796-080) CDC Charger Ver.6.0/B
I have this unit. It's an excellent discharger, and very easy to use. And it NEVER false peaks.
However, it tends to charge NiMh's a little too much, meaning they easily get too warm - that is above 50 deg C. Especially if your environment temperatures goes over 24-25 degrees celsius. In this case, you'll need a fan on the batts.
I'm using it at 20 deg C room temp, and sometimes below - then it's an excellent unit."
Originally Posted by noobie
Eagle Racing (#1796-080) CDC Charger Ver.6.0/B
I have this unit. It's an excellent discharger, and very easy to use. And it NEVER false peaks.
However, it tends to charge NiMh's a little too much, meaning they easily get too warm - that is above 50 deg C. Especially if your environment temperatures goes over 24-25 degrees celsius. In this case, you'll need a fan on the batts.
I'm using it at 20 deg C room temp, and sometimes below - then it's an excellent unit."
09-02-2005, 05:14 PM
#22
Cole trickle Sez
"I'm actually quite happy with the CDC, but would like it to cut off a little earlier. If Eagle/Integy could change the cut off technique a little, it would be the best cahrger for the money.
Now it charges for 55 seconds, pauses 5 sec., charge 55... If they changed it to 2 or 3 minutes charge, then 5 sec. pause, the charger would have a longer period to look for the voltage drop. It could be made selectable in the menus, like VSEC-1-Punch (the current one) and VSEC-2-Easy, the one I suggest.
To sum it up a little: The CDC has a lot of features for an atractive price. It never false peaks, but at the expense for it tends to overcharge the packs. So be carefull with the cut off setting, and watch the temperature."
Now it charges for 55 seconds, pauses 5 sec., charge 55... If they changed it to 2 or 3 minutes charge, then 5 sec. pause, the charger would have a longer period to look for the voltage drop. It could be made selectable in the menus, like VSEC-1-Punch (the current one) and VSEC-2-Easy, the one I suggest.
To sum it up a little: The CDC has a lot of features for an atractive price. It never false peaks, but at the expense for it tends to overcharge the packs. So be carefull with the cut off setting, and watch the temperature."
09-09-2005, 09:22 AM
#25
Originally Posted by rctoyguy
I just got a 16x8v6 that hasn't made it to the track yet (tomorrow is it's first run) - we'll see how it does.
I played with a little last night..temp probe is pretty accurate was set at 120deg.F(default) I think was a little low...charging shut down after 2950mah on Gp3300's. that normally charged to 3600mah on my CDC and hot.
Step charging seems to work fine nice feature..did keep the pack cooler.
on the Dyno...when I first tried it..voltage was erratic...was set at 3v. it started out at 3v..then increased and decreased etc. so I shut it down. I tried it again..and this time it stayed at a constant 3v.+/- .01v
unfortunately won't be able to hit the track this weekend...but I think I'll play with it in the garage with several more packs..
09-09-2005, 09:27 AM
#26
I have actually thought about selling mine and getting another LRP Pulsar Pro (have 1 already) and a ZeroThirty - maybe along with a DynoV2. The "one unit does it all" sounded good, but I'm having second thoughts. I love my Pulsar.
The main thing I wanted was a 30A discharger, and a second charger - hindsight is 20/20, but I'm already having second thoughts before it has even been to the track.
The main thing I wanted was a 30A discharger, and a second charger - hindsight is 20/20, but I'm already having second thoughts before it has even been to the track.
09-09-2005, 09:33 AM
#27
Zero30 discharger works great... 
another downside on the new 16x8v6... no user memory slots to save charger setting like the CDC.
and Torpedo function..
Another alternative is the APS APS Dyno-Charge 3 in 1 Unit (New S3 version)
no power supply but had 5 user charging memory slots. APS Dyno-Charge 3-in 1 Unit, featureing a high performance DC Charger, Motor Dyno, and Motor break-in unit.
http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...nid=59&id=4707
I think this might be made by Integy/Eagle racing as well..
another downside on the new 16x8v6... no user memory slots to save charger setting like the CDC.
and Torpedo function..
Another alternative is the APS APS Dyno-Charge 3 in 1 Unit (New S3 version)
no power supply but had 5 user charging memory slots. APS Dyno-Charge 3-in 1 Unit, featureing a high performance DC Charger, Motor Dyno, and Motor break-in unit.
http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...nid=59&id=4707
I think this might be made by Integy/Eagle racing as well..
Last edited by rc-zombies; 09-09-2005 at 02:50 PM.
09-09-2005, 10:37 PM
#28
Originally Posted by fire929
Once again stay off my post maybe you do not understand who I am, or what I am saying so keep your mouth shut and post somewhere else.
Look here fire929, I don't know who you are and just because you started this thread, it doesn't mean it is your thread. It's for everyone who needs info. Futureal made this forum for the racers to have a great time and share info. Its not here to bash other fellow racers. You need to think about it in that sense.
Now on to what I'm going to say. I just had a friend of mine that bought 3 that's right 3 Integy 16x8's and all of them did not work well. He kept getting an input voltage error. Then one went up in smoke
. Needless to say he was 
and got his money back from the local hobby shop. Now, I've heard good things about the recently chargers but one comment about the peak dectection algorithm is not on the good side and I've been a witness to HOT batteries even at the lowest peak detection levels.
This is not to say that integy will never fix these issues. It probably has been done. But that's what we have seen here.
09-13-2005, 05:59 PM
#29
So what's the verdict with 16x8v6?