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Old 10-27-2014, 09:28 PM   #421
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Mihn....I am almost done with the setup sheet....I need 5 more minutes!
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Old 10-27-2014, 10:45 PM   #422
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Here is my setup.... Enjoy!
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Nice clean builds Sean!

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Old 10-29-2014, 04:52 PM   #424
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Here is my setup.... Enjoy!
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Thanks for posting the setup, what did you achieve by changing the rear lower shock position to the farther inboard position?
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Hi Sean

Thanks for posting the setup, what did you achieve by changing the rear lower shock position to the farther inboard position?
The car was more responsive, I had better side bite, and the car seemed to turn better. I felt with the arms flipped "line/indicator" facing the center of the car with the mounting position all the way out, the dampening seemed to be almost hindered in a way and was not able to move up and down freely, almost like a slight bind, plus the car felt to me to be a little lazy. Not saying the other way is wrong, but for me what is shown in my setup worked really well.. The car is very responsive to changes which is good!
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OK so im stumped. ran the car last night on carpet in stock 17.5 class. qts 32 tires are the tires we have to use in the class. car would have a little push upon entry then as the car slowed it would gain grip more and more thru the turn. so much so i would oversteer and turn in too much and hit the inside pipes. got pretty frustrated. stock setup in general but i have the 3.5 rear block with .5mm shim under only. split blocks on rear W/ notches out. front front block with 1.5mm shims split blocks also with notches in. other than that its the standard setup. car just has way too much steering. track is small and grip is high. our next run is sat on a larger track with the same basic layout but much higher speeds with med to high grip levels. i just ordered 5 of the 6 yokomo springs (orange was out of stock) and they should be here tomorrow i even paid for express shipping. hopefully the car will behave a bit better. car seems to just transfer too much weight onto the front as it slows and turns in very hard as the slip angle gets less and less. pretty frustrating. one of the guys said to try adding some ackerman to calm it down. i may do that. the steering just seems overly aggressive. it may be due to the slip angle being less with these tires.
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OK so im stumped. ran the car last night on carpet in stock 17.5 class. qts 32 tires are the tires we have to use in the class. car would have a little push upon entry then as the car slowed it would gain grip more and more thru the turn. so much so i would oversteer and turn in too much and hit the inside pipes. got pretty frustrated. stock setup in general but i have the 3.5 rear block with .5mm shim under only. split blocks on rear W/ notches out. front front block with 1.5mm shims split blocks also with notches in. other than that its the standard setup. car just has way too much steering. track is small and grip is high. our next run is sat on a larger track with the same basic layout but much higher speeds with med to high grip levels. i just ordered 5 of the 6 yokomo springs (orange was out of stock) and they should be here tomorrow i even paid for express shipping. hopefully the car will behave a bit better. car seems to just transfer too much weight onto the front as it slows and turns in very hard as the slip angle gets less and less. pretty frustrating. one of the guys said to try adding some ackerman to calm it down. i may do that. the steering just seems overly aggressive. it may be due to the slip angle being less with these tires.
The high roll center in the front might be causing this. Try .5 shims in the front also. Too much pressure on front tires maybe.
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I will try that. It makes sense. thanks ill report back on sunday on results.
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I will try that. It makes sense. thanks ill report back on sunday on results.
Might also want to try out Henrik's carpet setup he recently posted over at the FB arcdriver page
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ill go take a look at that. on one track last weekend the car was ok. i was just over driving it a bit. then last night it handled like dog poo. now maybe on the big track it will be fine lol. one can only hope. but ill go look at that setup.
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The car was more responsive, I had better side bite, and the car seemed to turn better. I felt with the arms flipped "line/indicator" facing the center of the car with the mounting position all the way out, the dampening seemed to be almost hindered in a way and was not able to move up and down freely, almost like a slight bind, plus the car felt to me to be a little lazy. Not saying the other way is wrong, but for me what is shown in my setup worked really well.. The car is very responsive to changes which is good!
Great explanation thank you. I will give it a try
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Check your bumpsteer also...sounds like the car is slowing down, beginning to roll, and turning in harder.
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Harder spring in the front and/or thicker diff oil would be some things I would try.
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yeah going to check all those. i run 5000k in the rear diff. will be reading my setup helper by martin crisp also. and funny i had that setup sheet from heinrik in my pit bag. never though of consulting that. going to try that setup for saturday and see how it goes. although i dont have those particular springs. i did order the yokomo springs -the orange spring thats not in stock. i express mail ordered them so i hope they show tomorrow.
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