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Old 03-18-2015, 01:09 PM   #1096
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Try Arena out drives, very good steel no blades, cups have 4 sleeves.
Dont forget to put some grease f.e. tamiya heavy duty grease.
I use them for mod 4.5 on a very demanding track and they do well.


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Is there a toe matrix some where for the suspension eccentric bushings?

Also are the ball bearing roll bars just shorter than the T4?
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Old 03-18-2015, 05:59 PM   #1098
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[QUOTE=bigwavedave33;13912904]Is there a toe matrix some where for the suspension eccentric bushings?


I was just thinking about this today, wish there was..
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:07 PM   #1099
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Try Arena out drives, very good steel no blades, cups have 4 sleeves.
Dont forget to put some grease f.e. tamiya heavy duty grease.
I use them for mod 4.5 on a very demanding track and they do well.


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i googled this and cant seem to find it.
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Is there a toe matrix some where for the suspension eccentric bushings?

Also are the ball bearing roll bars just shorter than the T4?
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Is there someone here who is able to enlighten us on what changing the bushings allows us to do?
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:51 PM   #1101
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i googled this and cant seem to find it.
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He probably means these:

http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....ducts_id=13782
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Old 03-19-2015, 12:35 AM   #1102
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For the steel outdrives I have also found these:

http://www.fast-webshop.com/tonispor...xle-Drive-Cups

http://www.fast-webshop.com/tonispor...ing-Steel-2pcs

http://www.fast-webshop.com/tonispor...-S1-Xray-T3-T4
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Is there a toe matrix some where for the suspension eccentric bushings?
Not that I've seen. But it's pretty simple; if you have the same inserts on both sides of the arm (RF and RR) you'll have 3deg toe. Any change of insert just adds or removes toe in 0.5 or 1.0 deg increments.

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Also are the ball bearing roll bars just shorter than the T4?
No they're a different shape as well, they're wider across the bulkheads to make room for the orange insert/holders.
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Not that I've seen. But it's pretty simple; if you have the same inserts on both sides of the arm (RF and RR) you'll have 3deg toe. Any change of insert just adds or removes toe in 0.5 or 1.0 deg increments.



No they're a different shape as well, they're wider across the bulkheads to make room for the orange insert/holders.
About the 0.5/1 degree increments in toe, I have seen several Alexander Hagberg setup sheets where he specifies an "uneven" toe number, e.g. 2.7. See this setup sheet:

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...&setup=t4_2015

How is that possible?
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About the 0.5/1 degree increments in toe, I have seen several Alexander Hagberg setup sheets where he specifies an "uneven" toe number, e.g. 2.7. See this setup sheet:

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...&setup=t4_2015

How is that possible?
A couple of possibilities. As a factory driver he might have an optional RR alloy block that adds or removes 0.25deg toe to allow 'in between' settings.

Or more likely, he is quoting the value reported via a setup system, rather than the nominal value. My T4 '14 and '15 both show 3.2deg toe on my Hudy setup station with kit inserts, so I would also have 2.7 (measured) if I ran the inserts that Alex was running in that setup.

It never used to matter very much, but if you ever use ARS (as Alex does) then being able to compare rear toe between ARS and non-ARS setups is useful. So that's probably why some '15 setups are showing odd toe values.
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Hey All,

With these shorter shock lengths on the T4 what is a good length from tip to tip?

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Hey All,

With these shorter shock lengths on the T4 what is a good length from tip to tip?

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Maybe it is just me, sorry, but I do not understand your question
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I think he wants the overall length of the shock.
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On the T4 there are 4 shocks, 2 on the front 2 on the back.

They made these shocks shorter then past TC's so I was wondering what an ideal length would be, from end to end.

For the original shocks they were around 63mm

So just need a ball park for the short shocks

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On the T4 there are 4 shocks, 2 on the front 2 on the back.

They made these shocks shorter then past TC's so I was wondering what an ideal length would be, from end to end.

For the original shocks they were around 63mm

So just need a ball park for the short shocks

thanks

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I measure between the bottom of the shock body and top of shock balljoint, which I set to 9.5mm. Usually you have about one thread showing above the balljoint.
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