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Old 12-17-2014, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by grippgoat
I don't think breaking is so much the issue, as falling apart.

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I wasn't a fan of the Xray ECS as my would fall apart (set screw would back out), but I realized I was using shitty loctite. Ever since I switched to this stuff I've had 0 issues with any of my loctite screws coming out, including the ECS set screws: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HBM5TQ/
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by millbank
I ran the Xray 2mm Ecs's last year outside in mod and never had an issue. Not sure what people are doing to break them. I hit quite a lot of stuff but they are still going.
Poor assembly is my guess.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by niznai
Poor assembly is my guess.
The ECS's has in the two joints a short and a slightly longer pin that must be used in the correct place. Guess if someone assembled the ECS's with the pins in the wrong place (I actually did at first), you could break the ECS more easily, as the short pin in the wrong place would be proned to pop out or tear the joint.

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Old 12-18-2014, 12:18 AM
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That would be one way to screw up.

Not doing up the grub screws properly, or using crap loctite, or greasing the threads before using loctite are a few more.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:16 AM
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Or one of the G clip options and done.

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Old 12-18-2014, 01:21 AM
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they never lasted more than a season for me

The TRF and even RSD ones have longer lifespan.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:11 AM
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Don't bother with tyhe small grub screws at all, just use heatshrink around the 'elbow' joint and they should last until you rebuild them.

I have bent ECS dog bones in big crashes, but never snapped anything.
Eventually the OEM items wore out and as they are expensive to replace I started using RSD items.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:16 AM
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I think there a video about building Xray ECSs somewhere
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:59 PM
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Anyone running normal suspension in the rear?

Should I be concerned about durability on the ARS?

I want to buy some spares but am considering getting non-ARS replacement parts for the rear instead.
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Is everyone gluing the edges of their chassis? How important is this?
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With the old XRAY ECS', the pins would sometimes break. Now they made the pins bigger, the round bit at the end of the shaft that the barrel goes in is weaker and that shears right off. I've had much better luck with the Arrowmax DCJs, but you just have to remember to turn the retaining clips around on one, making a left and a right, so the open end of the clip won't catch on anything when it rotates forward.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:23 PM
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so far the rsd are my favorite ,cost effective and long lasting
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Originally Posted by SpidarX
Is everyone gluing the edges of their chassis? How important is this?
I glue mine. Its pretty cheap insurance to help protect the chassis.
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Originally Posted by SpidarX
Is everyone gluing the edges of their chassis? How important is this?
I didn't do this at all for my first few cars and I never had any issues. My latest car I did a really nice job of sanding and sealing all the edges, but last Sunday I managed to delaminate my chassis for the first time, I'm fairly certain it is because the upper bumper brace doesn't quite fit snugly enough against the bulkheads, and the plastic dents, so if you don't do damage on the first couple of solid hits, you probably will eventually.

I don't really think CAing the edges makes much difference, but it does look good if you do a nice job of it

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Originally Posted by lagcisco
Anyone running normal suspension in the rear?

Should I be concerned about durability on the ARS?

I want to buy some spares but am considering getting non-ARS replacement parts for the rear instead.
I ran ARS for a month or so on carpet, never found a setup that felt like an advantage, lap times were the same (I need to do more testing). I've since switched back to the standard rear suspension. FWIW, I run 17.5 and mod and never broke anything with the ARS system.
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