DURATRAX ICE vs MUCH MORE CTX
08-30-2005, 05:43 AM
#16
CTX, Step charging. It really brings the snap out of your packs. It is very flexable in charge rate programing. I have been very happy with my CTX. Down side, cost more that a ICE, doesn't run motors or lathes, doesn't disharge at a high enough rate. I don't believe the ICE does either though. The ICE is a good charger none the less. If you're looking to for a charger and nothing more, the CTX is great. If you're looking for a all in one charger, go with the ICE. I would also recomend the APS all in one dyno/charger. Excellent charger, only about $150, breaks in motors and give you rpm readings too. Not as reliable as a true dyno, but still a descent tuning tool. You mention getting these at a good deal, I'm assuming used, how much?
08-30-2005, 05:53 AM
#19
Originally Posted by Rob Phillips
I don't believe the ICE does either though. The ICE is a good charger none the less.
Input Voltage: 11-15V DC
Battery Types, # of cells: 1-10 Nickel-Cadmium cells (1.2-12.0V NiCd)
1-10 Nickel-Metal Hydride cells (1.2-12.0V NiMH)
1-4 Lithium-lon or Lithium-Polymer cells (3.6-14.8V Li-lon/Li-Po)
Battery capacity range: 100-9900mAh
Fast charge current: 0.1-8.0A (1C max for Li-lon/Po)
Fast charge methods: linear, reflex, impulse and 4-step
Fast charge termination: Peak detection for NiCd and NiMH "constant current / constant voltage" for Li-lon / Li-Po optional thermal cutoff for all battery types
Peak sensitivity: 0-25mV adjustable
Trickle charge current: 0-500mA (n/a for Li-lon / Li-Po)
Discharge current: 0.1-10.0A adjustable
Dishcharge cut-off voltage: 0.1-1.1V per cell NiCd & NiMH 2.5-3.7V per cell Li-lon / Li-Po
Temperature cut-off range: 50-132°F (10-56°C)
Cycle count: one to ten cycles (n/a for Li-lon / Li-Po)
Cycle cooloff delay: 1-30 minutes adjustable
Battery memories: 10
Display type: 8 line, 21-character LCD (168 characters max)
Graphical displays: Graphs charge and discharge voltage curves
Output connectors: banana jacks (two adapter leads included)
Motor break-in: 1.0-8.0V selectable, 1-120 minutes, 10A constant
Case size: 5.5 x 1.8 x 5.9" (140 x 45 x 150mm)
Weight: 21 oz. (605g)
It definitely has more features then the Much More CTX.
And both ICE and CTX are made in the same country??
As for the APS, I sold it off after 1 race...........
Well, I myself is getting a Robitronic overloader, a improved version of the ICE.
08-30-2005, 06:48 AM
#20
So... The Ice got features, which the CTX dont have... Like discharge curves and motor run-in.
The Ice is better.
Come on, guys, why is the CTX better
If I remember correctly, the CTX got a battery warmer and backlit display... Which the Ice dont have.
So, the CTX is better
Naahh, it comes down to list the advantages/disadvantages of each product. Then it's up to DIMO, to decide, what means most for him/her.
I wish people would drop the "this product is better, because I have it attitude". Together, we know a lot. We have the option of helping each other in this forum, through sharing knowledge. Opinions is good to have, but sharing knowledge is the key to learn from each other.
The Ice is better.
Come on, guys, why is the CTX better
If I remember correctly, the CTX got a battery warmer and backlit display... Which the Ice dont have.
So, the CTX is better
Naahh, it comes down to list the advantages/disadvantages of each product. Then it's up to DIMO, to decide, what means most for him/her.
I wish people would drop the "this product is better, because I have it attitude". Together, we know a lot. We have the option of helping each other in this forum, through sharing knowledge. Opinions is good to have, but sharing knowledge is the key to learn from each other.
08-30-2005, 07:09 AM
#21
Reasons why I have two Much More CTX's
1) I race two classes and need two chargers
2) They are small and are light and fit real nice in my pit box
3) They charge better and with the step charging they do not false peak where as other top end chargers even in step charge mode will still false peak
4) They can warm packs in the winter
5) They can warm tires with MM tire warmers
6) Easy to read
7) Easy to use
8) Back lite
9) Cause everyone who has ever bought one has loved it from day one....
10) Cause I feel like my packs get a better charge...
I am going to look at the Spintec ICC Charger as soon as it is available because it will charge each cell indivdually to its peak which will really help keep those expensive matched packs...well matched...LOL
Hope these are enough reasons why I use the Cell Master...
Now if I were only racing locally and not at the level that I am trying to get too...And were on a tight budget like he said...
The ICE is probably the best BANG for your BUCK on the market....
-Shookie <><
1) I race two classes and need two chargers
2) They are small and are light and fit real nice in my pit box
3) They charge better and with the step charging they do not false peak where as other top end chargers even in step charge mode will still false peak
4) They can warm packs in the winter
5) They can warm tires with MM tire warmers
6) Easy to read
7) Easy to use
8) Back lite
9) Cause everyone who has ever bought one has loved it from day one....
10) Cause I feel like my packs get a better charge...
I am going to look at the Spintec ICC Charger as soon as it is available because it will charge each cell indivdually to its peak which will really help keep those expensive matched packs...well matched...LOL
Hope these are enough reasons why I use the Cell Master...
Now if I were only racing locally and not at the level that I am trying to get too...And were on a tight budget like he said...
The ICE is probably the best BANG for your BUCK on the market....
-Shookie <><
08-30-2005, 07:24 AM
#22
I have used both.
The CTX is made better, than the ICE.
I have had no issues with my ICE.
Well, the only issue I have with my ICE is reading the screen.
Needs backlite....(I need to do the mod)
Not to get off the topic, but as an option check out the Orion Advantage, they come from the same factory as the CTX just out another door from what I understand.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong....
Very close features, but less $$$ in the US.
$169 vs $209 @ Speedtech
w/thermo sensor, which is an add-on with the ICE.
The CTX is made better, than the ICE.
I have had no issues with my ICE.
Well, the only issue I have with my ICE is reading the screen.
Needs backlite....(I need to do the mod)
Not to get off the topic, but as an option check out the Orion Advantage, they come from the same factory as the CTX just out another door from what I understand.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong....
Very close features, but less $$$ in the US.
$169 vs $209 @ Speedtech
w/thermo sensor, which is an add-on with the ICE.
08-30-2005, 07:32 AM
#23
Originally Posted by Tres
I have had no issues with my ICE.
Well, the only issue I have with my ICE is reading the screen.
Needs backlite....(I need to do the mod)
Well, the only issue I have with my ICE is reading the screen.
Needs backlite....(I need to do the mod)
Unless the mod directions are floating around the 'net someplace??
That's my major compaint about the ICE - no backlight
08-30-2005, 08:01 AM
#25
I took a chance on an ICE becuase I liked the specs, and I wanted another way to run my lathe if I had my GFX tied up. I bought another one becuase I liked the performance of the charger, and now I dont bother lugging my GFX to the track ( just use it at home). IMHO, it really is the best charger for the money, the only improvments on the charger that I think are needed, higher discharge, backlight, and I would like the wire outputs to be on the front and back of the charger.
The Much More product is an awesome product, but for the money you cannot beat an ICE
The Much More product is an awesome product, but for the money you cannot beat an ICE
08-30-2005, 09:59 AM
#29
I own a couple Ices and have been very pleased with them. They have a four-step charge, where the CTX only has three (which, IMHO, doesn't really matter). Every paramter is adjustable on your charge or discharge. They are not back-lit, but I never race in the dark, so its not an issue. They charge, discharge, run my lathe, break-in motors, and have a nice charge completion tone that you can dance to. The best part about using and Ice over a charger like the CTX is the graphics display. You can actually see your charge and discharge curves and analyze them point-by-point if necessary. Oh, and as far as Shookie's comment about needing a CTX to race at the level he is at: what a bunch of hooey. No chrager is going to make OR break you from being a competitive racer.
They charge, discharge, run my lathe, break-in motors, and have a nice charge completion tone that you can dance to. The best part about using and Ice over a charger like the CTX is the graphics display. You can actually see your charge and discharge curves and analyze them point-by-point if necessary. Oh, and as far as Shookie's comment about needing a CTX to race at the level he is at: what a bunch of hooey. No chrager is going to make OR break you from being a competitive racer.
08-30-2005, 10:26 AM
#30
i would go for the much more its a better more proven charger 