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Old 05-09-2014, 05:02 AM   #121
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I'll let tamiya prove themselves with the TB Evolution 6 MS later on...
TB Evo V was released in 2006 and subsequently EVO V MS in 2008

Guess we have to wait for TB Evo VI MS until 2014 then
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:25 AM   #122
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just got the pre-order confirmation. but they wait themselves until official release to do the payment.
so it's not an clean pre-order
but hopefully i will be one of the first owner of the car
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ok, so it is pretty much a TB-04 with a CF chassis. That motor sticks out as much as my TA05 did. The aluminum shock tower mount will negate any gains from the shorter shocks. Those raised aluminum posts to prop up the upper deck, something will give if you crash. Might end up with an unrecoverable tweak.

The A700 is the standard for high end shaft now. Tamiya needs to do better if they want to challenge the world with the EVO.

I'll let tamiya prove themselves with the TB Evolution 6 MS later on...
Assuming they settled on aluminum as the shock tower material is this not better than aluminum shock towers and full length shocks?

The Awesomatix is a really nice car. It is also almost double the projected price of the Tamiya. If the comparison is based solely on these being shaft driven tourers then the TC4 club racer at $149 really has a long way to go.

Looking forward to these getting released and maybe trying one for something a little different than what I'm used to driving.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:52 AM   #124
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Assuming they settled on aluminum as the shock tower material is this not better than aluminum shock towers and full length shocks?

The Awesomatix is a really nice car. It is also almost double the projected price of the Tamiya. If the comparison is based solely on these being shaft driven tourers then the TC4 club racer at $149 really has a long way to go.

Looking forward to these getting released and maybe trying one for something a little different than what I'm used to driving.
Couldn't agree more. Driven the TA03,04 and the TA05v2 and recently a secondhand TB03. I like this shaft-driven car a lot.... so I hope the TB6 will be something different . So I defenitly gonna get myself a new TB EVO 6...
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:53 PM   #125
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With a motor in that position on a shaft car, you cannot put it closer to center because the main drive shaft is in the way. If you look at a belt car, the front belt is offset to the right side. This allows the motor to be shifted towards center. With the main shaft centered, you cannot shift the motor inwards. It's basically like an old school 415 with a centered front belt.
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Old 05-10-2014, 12:41 AM   #126
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Like the tb-04 original chassis converted into carbon fiber chassis +upper deck

the gear case maybe the same TB-03/04....
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I doubt they would change the gear case. Though I do hope they are the carbon reinforced version. The picture looks like it's the basic plastic version.
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No need to change the gear case as such, just bring out a naked one via bulkheads? Or can't these gearboxes be exposed for some reason?
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Yeah, crap getting in the gears. Which is more of a problem than getting in a belt pulley.

The real innovation here would be to have an offset shaft with a hypoid tooth profile which would allow it to be lower and to the side, making some room for the motor to come further in. Hypoid teeth are of course difficult to profile hence expensive.

Or just put the shaft to the outside of the diff crownwheel on the opposite side to the motor and have a completely assymetrical gearbox (kinda like the DF03)
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Y'know...while I would rather see an inline motor on this car, it's also true that high power packs are getting heavier and heavier. Where my TRF417 with 5300's was within single digit grams of perfectly balanced with everything cinched up, the new 6500 in now is making the car heavy on the battery side.

I wonder how this car will balance out with this right angle motor setup? Maybe not as far out as assumed.
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Y'know...while I would rather see an inline motor on this car, it's also true that high power packs are getting heavier and heavier. Where my TRF417 with 5300's was within single digit grams of perfectly balanced with everything cinched up, the new 6500 in now is making the car heavy on the battery side.

I wonder how this car will balance out with this right angle motor setup? Maybe not as far out as assumed.
That's why I stuck with my 6000 pack and sold my 7200. There was no performance gain through the whole 6 minute run. If i do get this car I might be able to go back to a 7200 or 7600 just to rebalance the car as long as I can keep it near weight (1380g).
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:05 PM   #132
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TB EVO.6 CHASSIS KIT
Item No:84379 

2014年 6月28日(土)ごろ発売 60,264円(本体価格55,800円)

2014/06/28 Release in Japan / Yen : 55800

www(dot)tamiya.com/japan/products/84379/index.htm

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So based on the equivalent yen listing for the 418 (69,800) this thing should be about $400 USD
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TB EVO.6 CHASSIS KIT
Item No:84379 

2014年 6月28日(土)ごろ発売 60,264円(本体価格55,800円)

2014/06/28 Release in Japan / Yen : 55800

www(dot)tamiya.com/japan/products/84379/index.htm

Interestng. Wonder what it means by "body price". Anway, this link http://www.tamiya.com/japan/news/new...col=3#calendar basically says it will be double the TB04 ProII. (Y60,000 to Y31,000)

If previous comments of "it's a TB04 with a carbon chassis" are true, will it be worth double the price?
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Interestng. Wonder what it means by "body price". Anway, this link http://www.tamiya.com/japan/news/new...col=3#calendar basically says it will be double the TB04 ProII. (Y60,000 to Y31,000)

If previous comments of "it's a TB04 with a carbon chassis" are true, will it be worth double the price?
You'd hope for also;
- DCJs and spool
- Aluminum suspension blocks
- carbon plastics
- sway bars
- aluminium steering
- alloy spacers
- hex head ball cups (as opposed to cups on grubs which is typical for pro kits)

Those and the carbon plates would be more than the difference in price (if purchased at RRP)
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