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Old 04-14-2014, 05:59 PM   #61
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Some of your expectations are too much.
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It's no doubt been discussed before, but can I ask on this thread why we want a shaft drive instead of the hundreds of belt cars out there. Are those belt car people missing something, or is it for a totally different use, considering Tamiya offer both?

I'm keen to give this a go, love the 'something different' mentality at our track, but not if it's not going to work or be as good as a belt driven car.
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Because shaft drive cars have a slight edge in spec classes being able to put down the power instantly. Right now there is not much of a selection for a modern, competition design shaft drive. (Awesomatix being $900 starting)
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It looks like the Yokomo RS, all just plastic, Bäh ... also cheap ...
Purchase to reach to an acceptable limit. Madness what Tamiya will bring back for a rotten egg on the market, that`s not the progress for a worlds Team.

Again no Spirit only a poor imitation of already existing. I'm really disappointed that would never be an TB EVOLUTION
The only thing they seem to gave cheaped out on is the bulkheads, everything else seems trf spec
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shaft driven TRF 418, maybe. TB Evolution VI, not in my opinion.
I think it looks great. To me its about what works, not bling. As mentioned before it will be a good price, a fair bit cheaper than a TRF and if you want aluminium bulkheads then I am sure they will appear at some time. As long as the chassis plate ensures the car is aligned I am fine with it.

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It's no doubt been discussed before, but can I ask on this thread why we want a shaft drive instead of the hundreds of belt cars out there. Are those belt car people missing something, or is it for a totally different use, considering Tamiya offer both?

I'm keen to give this a go, love the 'something different' mentality at our track, but not if it's not going to work or be as good as a belt driven car.
Shaft drive is good for spec / blinky classes. I wouldn't say they dominate (the Awesomatix does well but its not a class leader) but they offer a more direct way to get the power than a belt drive car so that fits a certain type of driving style.
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It's no doubt been discussed before, but can I ask on this thread why we want a shaft drive instead of the hundreds of belt cars out there. Are those belt car people missing something, or is it for a totally different use, considering Tamiya offer both?

I'm keen to give this a go, love the 'something different' mentality at our track, but not if it's not going to work or be as good as a belt driven car.
For people who do parking lot racing, shaft drives seem to handle little pebbles and dust better than belt drives, but your probably know that already.

I believe most touring cars are being designed to be good at mod racing, which belts do really well in.
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nice try, but this ain't a EVO imo. More like TB-04MS.
But if the price is right(motor mount is the only new blue part), and the gearing is not gimped(fatal flaw), it should be ok.
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The carbon chassis plates?
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the chassis is a gimme. I was referring to just the newly milled alum parts. I'd be nice if you can just convert it to a longitudinal motor layout.
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Do you all thank this car will be competitive in 17.5 tc against all of the other cars out there? Also why would tamiya release a competitive shaft driven car when they have the Trf418?
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Because the 418 is belt driven....?

Means they can have a pinnacle (in their range) of each style.

Let's look at the positives for 17.5 blinky

- low weight (the plastic bulkheads are probably lighter than an alloy one?)
- stiff, but compliant chassis
- relatively low maintenance, easy to adjust gear diffs
- excellent suspension arms and mounting
- class leading, low COG dampers
- decent modern geometry (you would expect)
- shaft drive punch
- lots of adjustability (susp blocks for example)
- excellent DCJs in the front and proven reliable rear shaft design

Assuming the FDR can be made to work it will definitely competitive when power isn't crazy and won't be flexing the hell out of the chassis.

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Would make a damn good USGT and USVTA car. These classes are getting more and more popular. (At least in the midwest) 17.5 is so freaking fast these days on the small indoor tracks. So much so, just look at the 13.5 and Mod sedan times ran this last weekend in Denver vs 17.5. Not much of a difference with the 3 classes... I am OK with racing a class that is slower. 21.5 is plenty fast these days for Avg Joe Racer and still plenty fun. Plus USGT having real bodies and not everyone running the same thing makes it more appealing.
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Would make a damn good USGT and USVTA car. These classes are getting more and more popular. (At least in the midwest) 17.5 is so freaking fast these days on the small indoor tracks. So much so, just look at the 13.5 and Mod sedan times ran this last weekend in Denver vs 17.5. Not much of a difference with the 3 classes... I am OK with racing a class that is slower. 21.5 is plenty fast these days for Avg Joe Racer and still plenty fun. Plus USGT having real bodies and not everyone running the same thing makes it more appealing.
You may want to consider the TB04 for USGT. Weight reasons
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Why not 17.5 Tc..if the worked out all the issues with torque steer i could see this ar working great in the TC world.
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Why not 17.5 Tc..if the worked out all the issues with torque steer i could see this ar working great in the TC world.
It actually is on pace against all chassis I've raced against. And some of the competition I race against have Tq'd the Reedy race
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