Q for serious racers - are there still "unobtainium" motors and batteries?
#1
Q for serious racers - are there still "unobtainium" motors and batteries?
Thirty or so years ago when I was racing RC, no matter if I had the money or not, I still would not have the ability to purchase the "best" batteries and motors. Thus, even if my skill was good enough, I wouldn't have a fair chance against the pros who have access to these "unobtainium" parts.
Today, with the advent of Lipos and brushless motors, are there still "unobtainium" motors and batteries? Or can I truly buy the same motors and batteries off the shelf? I'm just curious more than anything.
Today, with the advent of Lipos and brushless motors, are there still "unobtainium" motors and batteries? Or can I truly buy the same motors and batteries off the shelf? I'm just curious more than anything.
#2
Tech Master
Thirty or so years ago when I was racing RC, no matter if I had the money or not, I still would not have the ability to purchase the "best" batteries and motors. Thus, even if my skill was good enough, I wouldn't have a fair chance against the pros who have access to these "unobtainium" parts.
Today, with the advent of Lipos and brushless motors, are there still "unobtainium" motors and batteries? Or can I truly buy the same motors and batteries off the shelf? I'm just curious more than anything.
Today, with the advent of Lipos and brushless motors, are there still "unobtainium" motors and batteries? Or can I truly buy the same motors and batteries off the shelf? I'm just curious more than anything.
Basicly the "God-tier batts" would be grabbed by sponsored drivers, then the best of the really good batts would be grabbed by store employees and friends of theirs, and then the customer could buy anything below that.
That's how it worked.
A store employee could still in theory test all the LiPo's for IR/voltage drop and pick the best ones for himself, it would only take a minute.
It could still be happening.
#3
I'm sure the very best motors and batteries are still going to top-tier team drivers, however, the difference between what they're getting and what Average Joe Racer buys over the counter is far less than it used to be. I personally consider that difference a non-issue nowadays.
#5
Team EAM
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I'm sure the very best motors and batteries are still going to top-tier team drivers, however, the difference between what they're getting and what Average Joe Racer buys over the counter is far less than it used to be. I personally consider that difference a non-issue nowadays.
Oval guys that run wide open are really the only place that is going to notice the difference in a stator that is .3 lower in resistance. When I get a batch of D3.5 motors in the 13.5's usually vary from 12.8-12.5 in resistance in a batch of 20. So the tolerances are much much tighter than what they used to be back in the brushed days. So many guys get worked up over it when you will never notice the difference in any class except MAYBE oval. And most of the guys racing oval couldnt tell a difference anyway because lap times are so much more dependent on chassis than anything else.
Dont buy into the "Certified" hype. Its not needed and just cost you extra money in the end. Spend the extra money you spend on a "certified" pack and use it toward practice and something that will decrease your lap times on the track.
**The above is not pointed at anyone in this thread but just a general statement***
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#9
Tech Master
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Well, considering what I've seen over the past 10 years, I can say that the gap between the unobtainable motors and batteries has certainly gotten smaller.
I've always been a self funded racer and back in the day when I first started I used to get mu butt spanked around the track by the pros at big events, now with the lipo and brushless power I'm doing a little spanking of my own.
I've always been a self funded racer and back in the day when I first started I used to get mu butt spanked around the track by the pros at big events, now with the lipo and brushless power I'm doing a little spanking of my own.
#10
Well, considering what I've seen over the past 10 years, I can say that the gap between the unobtainable motors and batteries has certainly gotten smaller.
I've always been a self funded racer and back in the day when I first started I used to get mu butt spanked around the track by the pros at big events, now with the lipo and brushless power I'm doing a little spanking of my own.
I've always been a self funded racer and back in the day when I first started I used to get mu butt spanked around the track by the pros at big events, now with the lipo and brushless power I'm doing a little spanking of my own.
#11
What about blinky ESCs?
#14
But a lot of the handout motors used in the blinky class are fixed timing on the can! Despite that you still notice differences between the cars. I do wander what other tricks are being used in the stock classes to extract max performance within the rules!
#15
Tech Regular
Making sure your bearings are good, gear mesh is set perfect, belt tension is correct (including not too loose). A good fan setup to keep the motor at optimum temperature but still drawing as little from the battery as possible.
Interestingly I've tried a couple of cars back to back with my BD7 and nothing I've tried is as quick in a straight line, and no I haven't tried an Awesomatix .