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Old 06-19-2014, 01:32 PM   #196
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40 deg mark on the side or 10 deg on the side (using the 30 deg that is said to be built in) ?
He's talking about 40* mark on the side but in all situations start lower at maybe the 35* mark and go from there.
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Still wanting to know what a safe temp is whith this motor?
I have been careful not to let it go over 52 deg Celsius (125.6 f)
I want to try 40 deg timing, but what is a safe max temp?
I'm talking about 13.5t
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He's talking about 40* mark on the side but in all situations start lower at maybe the 35* mark and go from there.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:15 PM   #199
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Still wanting to know what a safe temp is whith this motor?
I have been careful not to let it go over 52 deg Celsius (125.6 f)
I want to try 40 deg timing, but what is a safe max temp?
I'm talking about 13.5t
I don't know Celsius but 170 to 180*f is safe.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:07 PM   #200
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65 deg celsius is pretty much the max you want to go to, have see some motors go past 65 but i personally dont like to
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Thanks, I thought this motor would not be happy to go that high, but now I know that, ill crank it up! so 125 deg F is very conservative!
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Thanks, I thought this motor would not be happy to go that high, but now I know that, ill crank it up! so 125 deg F is very conservative!
125*F is safe and still relatively conservative.
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65 sounds like a good number! I imagine at that temp, the motor should still last a long time!
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I love these motors in my USGT and my 17.5TC but I can't get anywhere with the 17.5 in my 1/12. I have been everywhere with the gearing and timing and it is decent at best in 1 cell. I ended up running the best at 30* and a 3.2 roll out on our track tonight with a very open layout and a 60' strait. I spent an entire day over at Access in Ohio working with it since I had the track to myself. I could put my ORCA back in and beat it by 2-3 tenths a lap no matter what I was doing to the R1 in 1/12. Maybe I got a dud but the numbers on my MMS say it is good. I did have to resolder the sensor board since it came lop sided as in one side of the sensor plate was 1mm higher than the otherside and I couldn't gap the rotor correctly with out it hitting one side and being 1mm higher on the other. I have had to do that with all three R1's I have but the others were not as bad as this one. I don't know but the ORCA is going back in the 1/12 for now until I get a new board to test to see if that is the problem.

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I love these motors in my USGT and my 17.5TC but I can't get anywhere with the 17.5 in my 1/12. I have been everywhere with the gearing and timing and it is decent at best in 1 cell. I ended up running the best at 30* and a 3.2 roll out on our track tonight with a very open layout and a 60' strait. I spent an entire day over at Access in Ohio working with it since I had the track to myself. I could put my ORCA back in and beat it by 2-3 tenths a lap no matter what I was doing to the R1 in 1/12. Maybe I got a dud but the numbers on my MMS say it is good. I did have to resolder the sensor board since it came lop sided as in one side of the sensor plate was 1mm higher than the otherside and I couldn't gap the rotor correctly with out it hitting one side and being 1mm higher on the other. I have had to do that with all three R1's I have but the others were not as bad as this one. I don't know but the ORCA is going back in the 1/12 for now until I get a new board to test to see if that is the problem.

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I run 28' 101mm roll
That's about 20mm more gear then you have in your setup, and obviously a bit larger track

But it still seems as though you are looking for revs, in a torque motor ?
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Old 06-20-2014, 10:24 PM   #206
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I love these motors in my USGT and my 17.5TC but I can't get anywhere with the 17.5 in my 1/12. I have been everywhere with the gearing and timing and it is decent at best in 1 cell. I ended up running the best at 30* and a 3.2 roll out on our track tonight with a very open layout and a 60' strait. I spent an entire day over at Access in Ohio working with it since I had the track to myself. I could put my ORCA back in and beat it by 2-3 tenths a lap no matter what I was doing to the R1 in 1/12. Maybe I got a dud but the numbers on my MMS say it is good. I did have to resolder the sensor board since it came lop sided as in one side of the sensor plate was 1mm higher than the otherside and I couldn't gap the rotor correctly with out it hitting one side and being 1mm higher on the other. I have had to do that with all three R1's I have but the others were not as bad as this one. I don't know but the ORCA is going back in the 1/12 for now until I get a new board to test to see if that is the problem.



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It still seems something could be wrong with it as you described the sensor board being lop sided. Go to R1 web page and contact Steve. Im sure he could help out
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A friend and I are getting the R1 21.5 I will be using a Hobbywing Just stock speedie just wandering what timing and FDR would people suggest. We run on low grip painted concrete.

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90x45 carpet

I run 28' 101mm roll
That's about 20mm more gear then you have in your setup, and obviously a bit larger track

But it still seems as though you are looking for revs, in a torque motor ?
The 60' is my actual line from coming on to exiting on the strait. I have tried low timing and all gear and high timing an no gear along with everything in between probably 25-30 packs and two sets of foams working on this thing as I said I had 8 hours of track time to myself and I was able to always go faster with my Orca in the 1/12 but in my TC's I have never had a better motor than the R1 so I must conclude that it is either better as a 2 cell motor or I got a bad one. In the TC's they run very good with 4.2-4.6 and 28*-33* of timing according to the lap times up front and out back with little fade probably due to the Sweeps getting hot and the car scrubbing on the backside of the run.

Numbers on the MMS at 73*room temp are: (All motors 12.5mm rotor)
1/12 -17.5: 21.7, 21.8, 21.7 Rotor 1507, -1509
Pretty decent numbers for off the shelf I thought.

My ORCA 17.5 is 22.5,22.5,22.7 Rotor 1555, -1553

Hopefully a sensor board will fix it.

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90x45 carpet

I run 28' 101mm roll
That's about 20mm more gear then you have in your setup, and obviously a bit larger track

But it still seems as though you are looking for revs, in a torque motor ?
Is your R1 matching or even faster than your D3.5 in 1S 17.5 stock?
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Is your R1 matching or even faster than your D3.5 in 1S 17.5 stock?
I prefer to run "legal" motors
Never tried a D3.5

Compared to LRP, Schuurspeed, Orca, the R1 is on par
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