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Old 01-22-2014, 10:20 AM   #16
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This should be faster than VTA or USGT. I would expect anyway. If anyone is running something like this, how does it compare to laptimes for other classes?
It is faster. My fast lap for my 17.5 sedan this past Sunday was 9.1, avg. 9.3-9.4. My fast lap for my LM1 was 9.3, avg was 9.5-9.6.

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I have measured several different brands of TC rims, and none meet the 50mm maximum diameter rule.
TC rims weren't what we had in mind when considering rubber tires for the class. I based the wheel dimensions on the SpeedPassion foam tire wheels. The tire rules are all still 'TBA' until we can find a suitable and stable supply of tires. There have been inquiries made with several distributors and mfr's.

For now I'm using the supplied foams on my SP car and F103 wheels and rubber tires on my WGT conversion.

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Old 01-22-2014, 10:37 AM   #17
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I'll stick with my prediction made way back when: if the track has sufficient traction (like at a major event, to the point where cars are rolling in the turns), then the LMP pan car will be faster than 17.5 TC. Its lower center of gravity will allow higher cornering speeds.
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I'll stick with my prediction made way back when: if the track has sufficient traction (like at a major event, to the point where cars are rolling in the turns), then the LMP pan car will be faster than 17.5 TC. Its lower center of gravity will allow higher cornering speeds.
I think when we get the cars on rubber tires it will slow down some. Traction this past weekend was very good. My car rolled early in the day when I was still dialing in. With a 17.5 in the car it would def. be faster than TC but also harder to hang on to. 21.5 for indoor is ideal.

I need to do more testing with my WGT chassis car to see how comparable it is on rubber tires to what I figured out with the SP car this weekend on foam.
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:55 AM   #19
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So is the goal to put these cars on rubber tires or foam?
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The Speed passion car was designed for foam but everybody want's to put it on rubber.
Or the class it will run in
Why????

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Why not do 21.5 foam tire on the carpet and 17.5 rubber tire on the outdoor tracks? This way, you can use the tire/body as a distinction between F1 and LMP. Just a suggestion.
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:28 AM   #22
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I think it would be best if we all decided to post in one thread so we can keep things straight (and I'm as guilty as anybody!). Rick, since you are the go-to guy for rules, would you like to proclaim which thread will serve as the "official" thread, and request that all further responses be directed there?
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I've got the wrong impression... I was thinking the goal of this was the evolution of WGT into a class with more stable bodies for racing. It seems to more geared to the F1 cars going to closed wheel.
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So is the goal to put these cars on rubber tires or foam?
The goal of the rules set that Rob and I created for USLMP which is under the USVTA banner is to get the cars on to rubber tires.

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The Speed passion car was designed for foam but everybody want's to put it on rubber.
Or the class it will run in
Why????

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Why? Simply to avoid the current state of WGT racing in the U.S. which is to take brand new tires and true them down to almost zero for a few runs worth of wear.

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Why not do 21.5 foam tire on the carpet and 17.5 rubber tire on the outdoor tracks? This way, you can use the tire/body as a distinction between F1 and LMP. Just a suggestion.
We feel there is a large distinction between the two classes even if the LMP cars are on rubber tires.

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I think it would be best if we all decided to post in one thread so we can keep things straight (and I'm as guilty as anybody!). Rick, since you are the go-to guy for rules, would you like to proclaim which thread will serve as the "official" thread, and request that all further responses be directed there?
Good idea. Further discussion will continue in the LMP1 200mm thread.

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I've got the wrong impression... I was thinking the goal of this was the evolution of WGT into a class with more stable bodies for racing. It seems to more geared to the F1 cars going to closed wheel.
The goal is to provide a rules set that includes both purpose built LMP cars (like the SpeedPassion LM1) and converted WGT chassis. F1 cars that are converted are certainly allowed also but they were not the focus.

Having run on fairly high traction now I feel even more certain that rubber tires are preferred once they are available. Otherwise this will simply be more WGT racing with cut down tires. The bodies will just look cooler.
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Further discussion will continue in the LMP1 200mm thread.
So says the boss! Please make all further posts here:

LeMans LMP1: 200mm Pan Class Discussion
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How many people (on RCtech) have a car that fits the description for USLMP?
Besides the Speedpassion LM-1, anyone
with a 1/10 F1 car like Tamiya's F103.
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Does there really need to be another class? Seems like most races have loads of classes these days with 4 people in each one...and why does every new class get slower?
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So says the boss! Please make all further posts here:

LeMans LMP1: 200mm Pan Class Discussion
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Somebody want to lock this one down and we can keep the discussion to the LMP 200mm thread?
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