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Old 07-20-2015, 01:02 PM   #121
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Thanks. It seems the Mini Cooper is usually the first to catch people's attention with its comical appearance/color schemes, completely different from the serious TC's. Now put that body on a fast m-chassis like the Sabre 4WD mini's and blow people's minds.
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Thanks. It seems the Mini Cooper is usually the first to catch people's attention with its comical appearance/color schemes, completely different from the serious TC's. Now put that body on a fast m-chassis like the Sabre 4WD mini's and blow people's minds.
Looking good, Sak! For the same reasons I run the Tamiya Mini Cooper body on my Genetic and I'm debating on putting one on my Nanda NRX-12.

BTW, no one in our club has shown up with a Top Sabre (2wd or 4wd). We've had a few VM-IIs, but they were short lived. Seems like the Sabre is still the sharpest blade in the drawer.
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Looking good, Sak! For the same reasons I run the Tamiya Mini Cooper body on my Genetic and I'm debating on putting one on my Nanda NRX-12.

BTW, no one in our club has shown up with a Top Sabre (2wd or 4wd). We've had a few VM-IIs, but they were short lived. Seems like the Sabre is still the sharpest blade in the drawer.
Thanks, Rodarbal! Yeah, I didn't know what a Sabre was until a month ago when I got my FWD one (been away from RC for a long time). I'd get the 4WD too if I didn't have the M-Four already which is also a belt drive.

But you never know with me. Chances are, I will get my hands on a Sabre 4WD Mini.
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The Sabre Mini 4WD is my only non Tamiya RC car. I love it!

The M-Four was an odd move on Tamiyas part. They should have designed it with a 540 motor and new arms that have droop.

I recently started to look for a good 380 brushless motor. It appears the hobby king / hobby partz is all that is available.
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I recently started to look for a good 380 brushless motor. It appears the hobby king / hobby partz is all that is available.
There are a couple of us who are looking into them as well as a spec motor for our 4wd M-class (we're currently running silver cans). The 2100 Kv Tacon is a 380 motor with fins that give it a 540 size. Still good power and quite a bit faster than 27T silver cans. With a 3.25 FDR one of our local guys is seeing the same speeds as our USGT cars.

http://www.hobbypartz.com/96m272-2848-2100kv-18t.html
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If the find make it close to a 540, does it fit the M-Four ?
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On the M-Four thread there were folks like Torg that ran brushless 380's.

I am running the Tamiya 380 Sport Tuned with a 16teeth pinion on my M-Four. It is considerably faster than my Tamiya M05 V2 running silver can, but the motor gets very hot without a fan running. It's fast enough for the driving I do, but if I was going to race,I would definitely pull out my CupRacer, or get my hands on a Sabre4WD Mini.
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There are a couple of us who are looking into them as well as a spec motor for our 4wd M-class (we're currently running silver cans). The 2100 Kv Tacon is a 380 motor with fins that give it a 540 size. Still good power and quite a bit faster than 27T silver cans. With a 3.25 FDR one of our local guys is seeing the same speeds as our USGT cars.

http://www.hobbypartz.com/96m272-2848-2100kv-18t.html
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my GPS clocked the following results @ 3.25 FDR with the NRX-12:

Axial 27T Brushed Motor (Max Speed = 21.1mph) 3.5Ah after 8 min @ 170
Tacon 2848-2100kV Sensorless (Max Speed = 27.3mph) 1 Ah after 8 min @ 166

Torque/acceleration with the Tacon is significantly better, not sure how to measure it, but I needed to dial back the punch to help settle the car down on hard acceleration from corner exit.
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Hey some advice that I wanted to pass on. If your rubber o-ring battery strap breaks (like several of mine have), just go down to the hardware store and get a large rubber o-ring that matches the size ..i found them for .38cents each (compared to the $3.00 that TOP wants).
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Cool info, eR1c. I ordered a couple of spares from TopRacing actually for my FWD Mini. BTW, that o-ring reminded me of the belt I used on my motor lathe from back in the day.

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So I have a few questions I would like to ask. This thread may have covered it already, but haven't had the time to read it all yet.

1) What spare parts should I keep in my parts bin?
For example, on my FWD SabreMini, I have arms, uprights, diff parts, etc the usual items that tend to break and maintenance bits. Anything special that comes to mind I should keep?

2) Do these use the same improved sealing o-rings on the gear diff as the full sized Sabre? I know TOP hasn't released the revised o-rings for the FWD Sabre's gear diff yet. I can't have ANY oil dripping in my home track.

In the mean time, I am going to read through the assembly manual.

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http://www.t2shop.de/epages/61746328...04-S4M-Lenkung

Plugs straight on and just flat out works. Although you'll need a longer turnbuckle for the steering link. Gives you much more room for your electronics. I can fit an Orca VX speedo between the motor and the servo.
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2) Do these use the same improved sealing o-rings on the gear diff as the full sized Sabre? I know TOP hasn't released the revised o-rings for the FWD Sabre's gear diff yet. I can't have ANY oil dripping in my home track.
Yes, they use the same part. The o-rings come in a set and it is the same set for both the 4WD mini and the full size Sabre. Here is the part #PP-GDRS01
and you can cross reference it here: http://www.top-racing.jp/
-also click on the "new products" you'll see the o-ring set listed at the top as a new part ...it works for both cars.
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Plugs straight on and just flat out works. Although you'll need a longer turnbuckle for the steering link. Gives you much more room for your electronics. I can fit an Orca VX speedo between the motor and the servo.
Thanks, I will check this out!

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Yes, they use the same part. The o-rings come in a set and it is the same set for both the 4WD mini and the full size Sabre. Here is the part #PP-GDRS01
and you can cross reference it here: http://www.top-racing.jp/
-also click on the "new products" you'll see the o-ring set listed at the top as a new part ...it works for both cars.
Awesome, thanks!! I will definitely order that.
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I read through the manual and it looks like the sus parts, steering uprights, etc are all sharing the same part numbers as my FWD Mini, so this will save me a lot of $.

Going to order pulleys and belts and the improved diff o-rings.
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