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Old 12-19-2016, 12:20 PM   #1861
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Swaybar should pull up on the opposite side when suspension compresses and put less pressure on the outside wheel. The progressive springs would just get stiffer on one side and increase pressure.
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Hi I'm considering a 2015 X1 but i wanted to know the major differences between the X1 2015 and the 2016 (and even 2017 if it's released).

Can the 2015 car be easily updated to latest spec? What updates/ mods would you say are worth doing?

Is there a good performance gain with the 2016?


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Old 12-20-2016, 01:52 AM   #1863
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Swaybar should pull up on the opposite side when suspension compresses and put less pressure on the outside wheel. The progressive springs would just get stiffer on one side and increase pressure.
I am not sure, I understand what you say. A swaybar adds roll stiffness which could be accomplished by stiffer springs also. I cant see how a progressive spring would have different force distribution effect than adding a sway bar to soft springs.
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Old 12-20-2016, 02:44 AM   #1864
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Hi I'm considering a 2015 X1 but i wanted to know the major differences between the X1 2015 and the 2016 (and even 2017 if it's released).

Can the 2015 car be easily updated to latest spec? What updates/ mods would you say are worth doing?

Is there a good performance gain with the 2016?


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if you run on carpet the 2015 is still very very performing. on asphalt the floating steering of the 2016 is an avantage
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Old 12-20-2016, 02:54 AM   #1865
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Hi I'm considering a 2015 X1 but i wanted to know the major differences between the X1 2015 and the 2016 (and even 2017 if it's released).

Can the 2015 car be easily updated to latest spec? What updates/ mods would you say are worth doing?

Is there a good performance gain with the 2016?


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The 16 comes with damper tubes instead of a side shock and has the parts to run a floating servo.
The 17 comes with new parts that allow the use of a front sway bar and has a couple more tuning options.
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Old 12-20-2016, 02:56 AM   #1866
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Hi I'm considering a 2015 X1 but i wanted to know the major differences between the X1 2015 and the 2016 (and even 2017 if it's released).

Can the 2015 car be easily updated to latest spec? What updates/ mods would you say are worth doing?

Is there a good performance gain with the 2016?


thanks
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the prefered car for me is 2016. It has some differences to 2015 which make it more durable and working on it easier.
The 2015 could be updated relatively easily to 2016 - You just need to buy the 2016 parts which are direct fit.
As for performance both 2015 and 2016 perform the same...
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I'm still waiting for my 17. If you have the original 15, stick with it.
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I am not sure, I understand what you say. A swaybar adds roll stiffness which could be accomplished by stiffer springs also. I cant see how a progressive spring would have different force distribution effect than adding a sway bar to soft springs.
When a progressive spring compresses it gets stiffer providing more traction, a sway bar doesnt stiffen the suspension it equalizes it and takes traction away from that end. This is just my opinion on what happens, every time ive tried progressive springs on high traction it gives me bad results. It will be something you'll have to just try.
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Old 12-20-2016, 06:11 AM   #1869
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cool thanks guys
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:55 PM   #1871
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Hey guys ive been working on this chassis for the x1 for over a year now and this is the first pre production prototype. Ive been running a earlier version of this design last year with great results and the few changes have made it even better. I wont get into to many details right now as i need to test this a little more but want to gauge the interest in a conversion kit available around the start of February. I cut the carbon fiber in house.

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Old 12-20-2016, 08:55 PM   #1872
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If you make one in 2mm 7075 aluminum, I'm in...
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:38 PM   #1874
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Awesome! If you incorporate some of the '17 front center shock posts holes, I think you would sell even more.
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Old 12-21-2016, 04:01 AM   #1875
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Hi what are the benefits of these after market chassis over the stock, obviously performance related but I'm surprised xray and all their expertise seem to be outdone but several after market options?

Also can someone explain the benefits of the alum chassis vs the stock carbon options as I've seen them used widely in TC and F1 (but not so much in pan car)?
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