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Old 10-17-2013, 10:42 AM   #16
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Thanks for clarifying Eric. Can't wait to try one out. It looks great.
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Hey Dave,

This was the original intent, but the more the body developed, it sort of took on a 'life of its own' and the end result has a body that we think will be more for the outdoor asphalt crowd as EA said. But again we will wait to hear feedback from our team of drivers.

Whichever slot it fits into, be assured that we plan on doing an "opposite" body in the coming months as well. (ie. if we find the new GX is dynamite outdoors, we will aim the next body at carpet, or vice versa).
That sounds as if you don't know what you did Weren't you guys making simulations (digital and in an aero tunnel)?
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I really like the Montech Nazda 4 for indoor carpet. It's really planted compared to the ltc-r and has better rear grip than the R9 with similar steering. I am keen on trying this though, I seem to do ok with aggressive shells.
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I really like the Montech Nazda 4 for indoor carpet. It's really planted compared to the ltc-r and has better rear grip than the R9 with similar steering. I am keen on trying this though, I seem to do ok with aggressive shells.
I found the Nazda 4 undriveable on carpet, but that would have been on low-medium grip. Nazda 3.0 was easier to drive.

The Nazda 4 rear wing is so far forward compared to everything else.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:06 PM   #20
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That sounds as if you don't know what you did
Not quite. Its more a case of the more we analyzed the real Mazda6 GX race car, the more we determined that its characteristics are better suited for a high-downforce type body and thats fully what we expect. No bodies have been produced yet so we don't yet have any data.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:26 PM   #21
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Not a lot of love for the P37 here... I personally love that body. Although I do always have all 3 bodies with me on race day just in case. I use the P37 95% of the time on carpet no matter what the traction is, and only switch to the Mazda 6 when I need something less agressive. The LTC only comes out on very rare occasions, but the P37 usually does the trick. Very underrated body in my opinion. Can't wait to see what the new GX brings!
Agreed. I tested the 6 and the LTC-R when I first got into sedan and the P37 seemed to suit my driving style the best. Similiar to the Gianna vs sophia body in WGT. When the new GX comes out I'll need to give it a try as well.
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I found the Nazda 4 undriveable on carpet, but that would have been on low-medium grip. Nazda 3.0 was easier to drive.

The Nazda 4 rear wing is so far forward compared to everything else.
I do have the wing quite far back, I usually run on a very low grip carpet and its also very technical so I need a lot of steering. I like the ltc-r and also the R9 (which is quite popular at our club).

A lot of us used to run foams until quite recently so we do like a maniac amount of steering.
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That sounds as if you don't know what you did Weren't you guys making simulations (digital and in an aero tunnel)?
Are you willing to pay $100+ per body?
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If one of the biggest body producer, selling ten thousands of bodies to racers worldwide, announces the successor of the most successful touring car body of all time, I expect them to have analyzed what makes the "old" shell so good, and what were its weaknesses to improve in all areas. Therefore they must have "tools" to verify what we as drivers feel on track. As it is all about aerodynamics some strategies to know what the air does would be useful. CAD-Simulations can help as well as aeropaint. And some wind tunnel time can be bought "cheap" from universities. No need to ask McLaren for that...
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:07 AM   #25
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I think their main tool is feedback from drivers themselves. I also think the Global Body Spec rule also puts them in a box as to what and how many changes they can make to keep the body within the GBS limits.

Whatever they do whether it be wind tunnels and computer programming or good ole fashioned hands-on molding, I am certain they know what they are doing based on their track record.
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I'm sure once they are released they will be hard to come across for a while. Everyone will want them.

Heck, just look at this thread.
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Has anyone tested it?
And compared it with the Ride Subaru WRX?

Thanks!
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Has anyone tested it?
And compared it with the Ride Subaru WRX?

Thanks!
I haven't run the GX yet, but the Ride Subaru is ridiculously safe, far more than the Speed 6, so it should be more aggressive.

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I've had to stick the wing so far out the back just to stop it spinning instantly on asphalt.
Wrong rear wing
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Wrong rear wing
It was the one that came with it.
If you mount it so less than 10mm sticks out past the rear bumper, the wing is nearly 10mm further forward than any of my other bodies.
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