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Old 01-27-2014, 09:33 AM   #1141
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Are the 14 arms the same as the 13 arms, besides the mounting holes for the plates? Also, are the 13 and 14 top decks the same too?
Rear arms the same beside holes for graphite plate.
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Top deck is basically same if you don't run the post.

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Old 01-27-2014, 09:45 AM   #1143
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So I need

FF,FR,Split blocks and RR also roll center inserts.
Arm pin front and rear
Closer lay shaft holder L&R
Lower deck
Steering plate....

Any things els?

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Old 01-27-2014, 09:51 AM   #1144
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Are the 14 arms the same as the 13 arms, besides the mounting holes for the plates? Also, are the 13 and 14 top decks the same too?
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The arms are different. The new arms can be used on the older car with 2mm of shims but the older arms wont work on the new car. The top decks are different only where the center post mounts. If you don't plan on using the center post then you can use the older top deck.
Rear arms are the same except for graphite plate holes (I know, I used an old when when I didn't have spares)

Front arms are not the same. The '14 items are longer at the pivot pin end, so old wishbones would require an additional 2mm of shims, but will still fit.. BUT.. The new wishbones are also thicker on their leading edge, so the shock mounting point is actually further forward than on the old car, think it's 2mm, hence the new car also having 2mm at the top of the shock in the kit setups.

top decks are different, but if not using the centre post, either will fit.
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:59 AM   #1145
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I find that is far abit of money to make my 13 to 14



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The 2014 ball studs are 0.5mm higher, and have longer thread for the inner camber links.

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Old 01-27-2014, 11:27 AM   #1147
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Thanks everyone, I am really glad a lot of the parts are interchangable which would save me at least $100. Cant wait to give the new version a try. Hopefully it is better.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:35 PM   #1148
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Looking to cure a mid corner push. I race on a med traction asphalt track.
Basic asphalt set up except for the following.
400 cst in the shocks, front diff,1 mill. 28 sorex. Track temp around
60deg in morning 70-75 in afternoon
Thanks for the advice
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It's the other way around.

The old FRONT arms can be used on the New T4 2014 by adding 2mm shims. The New FRONT arms will not fit the old car, you'll need to modify them, I don't recommend it (grinding etc.).
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I'm running the t4 with a few 14 bits fitted, I fitted the wishbones so I can try the plates, no mod needed.
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Looking to cure a mid corner push. I race on a med traction asphalt track.
Basic asphalt set up except for the following.
400 cst in the shocks, front diff,1 mill. 28 sorex. Track temp around
60deg in morning 70-75 in afternoon
Thanks for the advice
We're going to need a bit more than that.
Can you fill in a setup form on Xray's site and post a link here.

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It's the other way around.

The old FRONT arms can be used on the New T4 2014 by adding 2mm shims. The New FRONT arms will not fit the old car, you'll need to modify them, I don't recommend it (grinding etc.).
Ahh thank you for the correction.
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Looking to cure a mid corner push. I race on a med traction asphalt track.
Basic asphalt set up except for the following.
400 cst in the shocks, front diff,1 mill. 28 sorex. Track temp around
60deg in morning 70-75 in afternoon
Thanks for the advice
Small change would be to lay down front shocks and / stand up rear shocks one hole
Another small change would be to add some front arm sweep (use .5 out inserts in FF).
Bigger change would be go to reduce rear toe (.5 in on RR or .5 out on RF).
If you lose initial steering from any of those, go thicker in front shock oil.

You can also try more front camber or less rear camber.

If that doesn't work, then I haven't learned anything this week!

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We're going to need a bit more than that.
Can you fill in a setup form on Xray's site and post a link here.

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I filled out a set up sheet but,do not know how to post a link
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Ran a couple packs today before I plugged in the battery backwards and fried my ESC.

The 1.4 rear swaybar really helped high-speed steering, but maybe made it too aggressive on the infield, especially on cold tires.

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Old 01-27-2014, 11:10 PM   #1155
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Just put a new - not completely built t4 14 up for sale.
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