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Old 10-26-2013, 05:51 PM   #511
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Here are the 2 different ones. Left is '14. With it being higher on the inner link what would that do? I noticed that on the '14 the outer link in the front has a 2mm shim where the '13 has a 1mm shim. I notice this is why the outer link rubs on the inside of the wheel. So I think it was mentioned all the links are higher on the '14 in kit form. What would it do over the '13. I'm still trying to figure out the whole camber link thing. Measuring them the '14 ball is 1mm higher the the previous.
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Here are the 2 different ones. Left is '14. With it being higher on the inner link what would that do? I noticed that on the '14 the outer link in the front has a 2mm shim where the '13 has a 1mm shim. I notice this is why the outer link rubs on the inside of the wheel. So I think it was mentioned all the links are higher on the '14 in kit form. What would it do over the '13. I'm still trying to figure out the whole camber link thing. Measuring them the '14 ball is 1mm higher the the previous.
Higher outer link will require more force for the car to roll this is call higher roll center on Xray setup book.
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:14 PM   #513
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Got mine Friday afternoon on my way to the track, oddly I fried my motor in the first heat of the night, so spent the rest of the night building up the bulkheads and suspension mounts to see what they were like, got to say I like em.

And reports of being tail happy?, from who???, with any luck I may try mine by next weekend, got to finish the build though, being lazy this weekend...
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:56 PM   #514
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I see lots of Carpet set ups any Asphalt set ups for meduim bite track?
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:44 AM   #515
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I tried mine for the first time, it definatly was nicely planted and not tail happy!
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:04 AM   #516
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I tried mine for the first time, it definatly was nicely planted and not tail happy!
are you running foams or rubber?

It seems to be rubber tyres on the Primafelt carpet used in the UK where the tail feels a little bit loose.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:22 AM   #517
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I gotta say that mine is a quite a bit tail happy.
That's on very high traction carpet only on power.
Other than that I couldn't be much happier with the car so far.

If anyone finds a cure for the tailhappy behaviour I would like to hear it

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I gotta say that mine is a quite a bit tail happy.
That's on very high traction carpet only on power.
Other than that I couldn't be much happier with the car so far.

If anyone finds a cure for the tailhappy behaviour I would like to hear it

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I know when I had that problem with T4 I raised the inner camberlinks up in the rear and the problem went away.
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I know when I had that problem with T4 I raised the inner camberlinks up in the rear and the problem went away.
on the 14 the inner ballstuds are 1mm taller as standard,so that must be taken into account when taking settings from the t4
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I know when I had that problem with T4 I raised the inner camberlinks up in the rear and the problem went away.
So 3mm then?

I really liked driving the rear inner camber links higher than the front ones outdoors on the t4, so I will definately give it a try.
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Also I've been thinking about going back to 1mm on the front outer camberlinks to decrease cambergain..

I'm going to report back in a few weeks when I've had time to get another training session at that high traction track.

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are you running foams or rubber?

It seems to be rubber tyres on the Primafelt carpet used in the UK where the tail feels a little bit loose.
I'm running rubber on ash felt .
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So if you kept the same size washers under the ball studs that you had on the T4 what would the car do
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:23 PM   #523
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Had a great weekend with the T4'14 at the Halloween Classic. The car was really good, stayed flat and performed well. I managed to finish 7th overall which isn't too bad for an old guy I guess.

Nobody had anything for the Awesomatix team, the people driving that car were about .2 per lap faster on average in 17.5. It was really quite amazing to watch.
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Had a great weekend with the T4'14 at the Halloween Classic. The car was really good, stayed flat and performed well. I managed to finish 7th overall which isn't too bad for an old guy I guess.

Nobody had anything for the Awesomatix team, the people driving that car were about .2 per lap faster on average in 17.5. It was really quite amazing to watch.
What sort of grip level was that on?
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.2 is a bit of an exaggeration.

I'd call the grip medium-high. It was kind of a greasy grip, the cars could move around and turned well.
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