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Old 01-11-2015, 11:31 PM   #2266
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Looking for a good asphalt low traction T4 14 set up if anyone has anything. i fought this car all last summer season and really like to stay with xray but it really tested me and so far i still have it. lol
What was it doing wrong, or what was it not doing? It'd also help if you posted your setup.
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Looking for a good asphalt low traction T4 14 set up if anyone has anything. i fought this car all last summer season and really like to stay with xray but it really tested me and so far i still have it. lol
The T4'14 generates huge amount of grip, so it should just be a setup issue. Here is my Bedworth setup which was from low-grip conditions at the start of 2014:

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...&setup=t4_2014

You can go down to 2.5 or 2.6 springs and/or lower the ride-height if the track is smooth, which will improve the grip even more.
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Hello dale

Would that set up work well for a wet car?
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Old 01-12-2015, 03:01 AM   #2269
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Looking for a good asphalt low traction T4 14 set up if anyone has anything. i fought this car all last summer season and really like to stay with xray but it really tested me and so far i still have it. lol
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The car felt lazy/sloppy in tight quick left right corners. it just felt slow to respond to fast direction change.
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The car felt lazy/sloppy in tight quick left right corners. it just felt slow to respond to fast direction change.
A lot of things can impact a car's reaction. Droop, shock oil weight, camber link length, wheelbase, tires, chassis stiffness, etc. The setup that was posted above looks pretty good, where was your different?
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Would that set up work well for a wet car?
It won't be far off, my changes for the wet are:

Drop the springs to 2.5
Split front suspension blocks for more flex
Front camber-link in the middle hole if you need more steering
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A lot of things can impact a car's reaction. Droop, shock oil weight, camber link length, wheelbase, tires, chassis stiffness, etc. The setup that was posted above looks pretty good, where was your different?
springs 3.0-2.8, shock oil 45-40, gear diffs 20,000-2,000, camber links med. length front and rear, all 4 shocks next to inside hole all around.
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springs 3.0-2.8, shock oil 45-40, gear diffs 20,000-2,000, camber links med. length front and rear, all 4 shocks next to inside hole all around.
Those springs seem too hard, and a spool would certainly make the car more stable.
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springs 3.0-2.8, shock oil 45-40, gear diffs 20,000-2,000, camber links med. length front and rear, all 4 shocks next to inside hole all around.
You're miles away from a sensible setup. Use the setup I posted above, then get back to us with how it went.
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Those springs seem too hard, and a spool would certainly make the car more stable.
and the front diff? go to a million.
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springs 3.0-2.8, shock oil 45-40, gear diffs 20,000-2,000, camber links med. length front and rear, all 4 shocks next to inside hole all around.
Are you using the longer springs for the T3 (and older) cars?
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You're miles away from a sensible setup. Use the setup I posted above, then get back to us with how it went.
I have to agree here. My biggest mistake on my first asphalt season was running a 1 million diff up front. Car pushed like crazy all summer and I never thought of that as the issue. If I race this summer I'll be trying 2.5 million (what I'm running on carpet now), but a spool is certainly a quick test. With the hard springs and the shocks second hole out, it does seem like the setup is fighting itself a bit. Go with the suggested setup and see how it does, or go back to kit asphalt and start from there again.
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The T4'14 generates huge amount of grip, so it should just be a setup issue. Here is my Bedworth setup which was from low-grip conditions at the start of 2014:

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...&setup=t4_2014

You can go down to 2.5 or 2.6 springs and/or lower the ride-height if the track is smooth, which will improve the grip even more.
I'm gonna give your setup a try this spring, however from your guy's comments, a spool would not be good to run on asphalt because it'll cause the car to push so would 1 million be good for the front diff? i'll run 1,000 in the rear.
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Are you using the longer springs for the T3 (and older) cars?
no i'm using Team CSO racing products springs. one of the part numbers is XT-4028.
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