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Old 04-06-2014, 02:35 PM   #106
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Are you using the original center pivot? The AE center pivot allows more articulation and is slop free with no binding. It bolts up 100% with little difference(a .020 " shim under the AE center pivot ball keeps the three pivot points inline. You'll need the pivot, the .020" shim, an AE pivot ball, and the short screws that connect the caps to the lower half of the pivot.
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I'm getting ready to order this kit. Does anyone have a ready made list of spring kits and essential spares that I will need with part numbers?
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Get the old version temper spring holder so you will have more choices of side spring. I run asphalt track out door and prefer the old black temper side spring with c4.0 or c5.0 front spring
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I'm getting ready to order this kit. Does anyone have a ready made list of spring kits and essential spares that I will need with part numbers?
I've been running this car for two and a half years(just updated the parts to make it a '14 when it came out), I have broke one steering knuckle in that time. Still using the same diff rings, just sand once in a while, running ceramic diff balls(again, same set since new).

I find the X-ray front springs to be good, they do not collapse, get all four rates for tuning. Side springs, get the Gravity RC springs(not sure if they fit the stock holder, but a kit is avail with holder), gives you a good range for tuning options. I am running a HB shock(not sure if still avail, check A-main), this allows a better selection of center springs, you can use AE, CRC, Tam, etc. with this shock. Using the stock one limits you to X-ray springs.

I also got some Ti turn buckles, and the composite balls(use top and bottom on the arms), this reduces some mass from the suspension.

Car is tough as nails, has a very wide set-up window, and the stock setup is very easy to drive fast.

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I've had a pair of soft (gold) front springs collapse. So probably worth getting a spare pair of your usual choice.
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Ithe Gravity RC springs(not sure if they fit the stock holder, but a kit is avail with holder)
They fit better on the xray plastic holder than they do on the gravity metal one.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:36 AM   #112
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Running an Asso RC12R5.2 currently but not really happy with the quality of the parts.

I might be able to buy the 2013 X12 kit NIB for almost half the price of the newer 2014 kit but in doubt.

Is the 2013 kit still competitive, are parts still available and would it be upgradable for a reasonable cost to 2014 spec ?

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Running an Asso RC12R5.2 currently but not really happy with the quality of the parts.

I might be able to buy the 2013 X12 kit NIB for almost half the price of the newer 2014 kit but in doubt.

Is the 2013 kit still competitive, are parts still available and would it be upgradable for a reasonable cost to 2014 spec ?

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X12 2012 is still competitive at my local track. It is a good car to run.

because all the carbon parts are different, the front lower arms are different. 2014 arm use alu e-centric mount to hold it to chassis. the screw holes for lower arm are not interchangeable too. unless you can get someone to cut you all the carbons for cheap, I don't recommend upgrading it (I bought an X12 2014 and have people cut me a whole set of carbon for the price of what Xray charges for single piece of chassis)
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X12 2012 is still competitive at my local track. It is a good car to run.

because all the carbon parts are different, the front lower arms are different. 2014 arm use alu e-centric mount to hold it to chassis. the screw holes for lower arm are not interchangeable too. unless you can get someone to cut you all the carbons for cheap, I don't recommend upgrading it (I bought an X12 2014 and have people cut me a whole set of carbon for the price of what Xray charges for single piece of chassis)
All the parts required to update a X12 to X12'14 cost 124.80 at RCmarket. This is what I did. You will need;
Chassis plate-54.60
lower pod plate-19.80
upper pod plate-6.80
rear link mount-11.80
front shock plate-4.20
lower control arms-8.00
inserts for arms(2 sets)-8.80
shims for ride height(3 sizes)-10.80

All other parts are the same.
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Right now i'm building mine but once again (i had the same problem when i had the asso 12R5.2) i have some different thickness in shimplates.
I have 2 different golden shimplates for the front, the thinnest one is the same as the silver ones.
But so far the rest of the build has been good.
Hoping to run the car on thursday night at the club.
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Any help what spur and pinion to use with a 10.5 motor? the 96 spur that comes with the kit I can work something with it?

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Any help what spur and pinion to use with a 10.5 motor? the 96 spur that comes with the kit I can work something with it?

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For 10.5 blinky I believe you'll want to aim for around 70mmpr
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Any help what spur and pinion to use with a 10.5 motor? the 96 spur that comes with the kit I can work something with it?

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Youu're best getting a 78 spur, and gearing for around 67mmpr, which is usualy 34-37 on the pinion
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I'm pretty sure you will have to use a 78. With a 96 you would need a 40something pinion and it would be too large to fit. I think you can add total teeth to find its maximum, best I have got was 71/62 (133 total teeth) and I think this works out with any combo, like 96/37 or 78/55. I would test my theory but I do not have a 55 pinion.

Edit - forgot I switched to Leespeed 80t spur.

80/53 is the maximum I can use, so I think this theory is correct.
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My X-ray X12 2014 is in the mail!!!!

On the way to her new owner...and total 13.5 domination!!!

This is my first 1/12 scale car.
This is my first onroad car.
After much research and poking and prodding, I discovered that any current chassis is competetive.
Tires and tuning are the deciding factors.

So then my choice of car was based on build quality...and let's face it...this is a beautiful car thats a dream to drive, easy to set up, and FAST!

Can't wait to build her and get to the track.

I opted for the AMR 12 body, and some pink and magenta Blackhawks.

Don't know bout the electronics yet.
Was thinking LRP Flow, Trinity D3 13.5, Futaba 9650 with a MT 4 radio.

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