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Old 02-13-2015, 05:47 AM   #541
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I use AE's really cool Ti-Nitride ball studs, and the open end ball cups from the 12R5. I think they are used on their touring cars too. Just trim as needed to get the amount of droop you need.

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Tried the spec r plastic bodies shocj with yokomo black. Overall shock weight 12 grams vs 10 for the vbc so insignificant. Car definitely held more corner speed but was much more fiddly in thw transition from on to off throttle. Letting off in the sweeper ect.
Went back to factory with 70wt ae but reduced reactive to mid setting. Much better overall but still off pace a little.
Next time ill this this front end on the transverse car. Yokomo 2.5 ws prob too stiff but vbc black prob pretty close to where I'd need to be. Similar to ae gold?
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Tried the spec r plastic bodies shocj with yokomo black. Overall shock weight 12 grams vs 10 for the vbc so insignificant. Car definitely held more corner speed but was much more fiddly in thw transition from on to off throttle. Letting off in the sweeper ect.
Went back to factory with 70wt ae but reduced reactive to mid setting. Much better overall but still off pace a little.
Next time ill this this front end on the transverse car. Yokomo 2.5 ws prob too stiff but vbc black prob pretty close to where I'd need to be. Similar to ae gold?
Unfortunately the AE gold is quite a bit stiffer than the VBC black, but of the VBC springs black is the stiffest. From what I've learned over the past years of running spec, and ever since Cyrul started running spec again. You have to set up your car so its on the verge of spinning out. Which means your car has to be super edgy. That fiddlyness that your feeling between on and off power is almost what your looking for in terns of carrying more corner speed. By the way... When are you ever off power in a spec class? Keep that thing strapped!!!

Another thing to add. When you put the Touring car shock on make sure that the angle of the shock is the same as what it was with the VBC shock. Angle of this can cause the shock to act stiffer/softer than it actually is.
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its kind of a bad habbit from practicing so much mod i guess that now i suck ass at stock lol.
we run a fairly small track of 3 rolls with 6ft lanes. quite a lot of 180s. usually i only let off like 1/4 of the way. 13.5 spec though. we wouldnt touch 17.5 for pancar lol.
hard to say what i like though. just going down to middle reactive caster made a pretty big difference to corner speed.
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its kind of a bad habbit from practicing so much mod i guess that now i suck ass at stock lol.
we run a fairly small track of 3 rolls with 6ft lanes. quite a lot of 180s. usually i only let off like 1/4 of the way. 13.5 spec though. we wouldnt touch 17.5 for pancar lol.
hard to say what i like though. just going down to middle reactive caster made a pretty big difference to corner speed.
Thats what me and Dave Ehrlich have been playing with a lot recently. Caster adjustments seem to be a very big change even if your just changing it about 2 degrees!
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AE .020 vs AE .018 springs...

Since the beginning of time I've always run .020 springs as a standard. With our lighter cars these days (my L12 weighs in at 734g) does .018 make more sense? What's the consensus on these? I have a set I think I'll try on Saturday.
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In low bite, yes. High bite, oh hell no

Unless you're running some brick of a front tire.
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AE .020 vs AE .018 springs...

Since the beginning of time I've always run .020 springs as a standard. With our lighter cars these days (my L12 weighs in at 734g) does .018 make more sense? What's the consensus on these? I have a set I think I'll try on Saturday.
Takes steering away. If your having problems with your car being too edgy or traction rolling go to 18 front springs.
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On power I can see it taking away some steering but off power it would add steering right? The softer spring would allow the weight to transfer quicker or am I off?

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In low bite, yes. High bite, oh hell no

Unless you're running some brick of a front tire.
I ran 17s at snowbirds with a blue front in 13.5
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On power I can see it taking away some steering but off power it would add steering right? The softer spring would allow the weight to transfer quicker or am I off?

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On and off power steering depend on center shock oil and spring. Doesn't really have anything to do with front springs.

Stiffer front spring = more steering (to a point)
Softer spring = less steering
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Thanks for the clarification. On your setup sheet below you're running SM 18 front springs, where do those fit compared to the AE springs?
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Thanks for the clarification. On your setup sheet below you're running SM 18 front springs, where do those fit compared to the AE springs?
Basically the same. they measure out on the calipers to .18. They are just a hair longer. Not sure what the longer spring does tho. I was just using what found first in my box!
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Basically the same. they measure out on the calipers to .18. They are just a hair longer. Not sure what the longer spring does tho. I was just using what found first in my box!
Thanks, I'll see what I end up doing this weekend.

You or Korey coming to the Carpet Nats @ Horsham?
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Thanks, I'll see what I end up doing this weekend.

You or Korey coming to the Carpet Nats @ Horsham?
No. Neither of us will be going. We will be going to MHIC in Denver though! Such a great race!
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