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Old 09-15-2014, 10:22 PM   #496
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I have a couple of comfy couches if it will sweeten the deal lol. though my car is tiny these days...
january 9-11 2015.

i was rolling out around 86-87 with the reedy set to 30-35ish degrees on 42ish tires.
our track was about 100x48 2013 crc ozite.

definitely some things for me to try out. we might have a perm facility this winter so ill actually have time to do test and tune, not just try to catch the fast guys in qualifying.

Ps. I dont run any dual rates or expo either. I turned my m12 down to about half the wheel travel and just learned to handle it. At first I had 20% negative expo but now zero.
Blake had commented on it when he had to run my.car in richmond for a 3 hr enduro lol. Him and our other team mate put like 70% expo in lol.
Neat thing about the sport is everyone has different taste. My driving style suits touring.car but maybe not 12th scale.
Guess we will see in a couple weeks.
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:36 PM   #497
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Not sure whether anyone will find this useful for usage at other tracks due to the traction conditions we encountered, but here is my final setup for the Lightning 12 from 2014 IFMAR worlds:

http://chrishillier.com/wp/wp-conten...orlds_2014.pdf

Please let me know if you have any questions!
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Jim thanks for sharing this info, do you think this would work at the Billings track. Srrc Rick Keiser.
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Old 12-27-2014, 01:01 AM   #499
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Hi all,

If I well understood what TQ Racing says, I assume the VBC and the Asso 12R5.2 share a lot of parts, am I right?

Other thing: what are the advantages using Xenon front end parts instead of VBC/Asso?

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Old 12-27-2014, 05:22 AM   #500
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Hi all,

If I well understood what TQ Racing says, I assume the VBC and the Asso 12R5.2 share a lot of parts, am I right?

Other thing: what are the advantages using Xenon front end parts instead of VBC/Asso?

Thanks in advance,
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Yep, the VBC and the AE do share a lot of parts. Pretty much the entire front end can be mixed and matched. You can also just straight up use the ae chassis/lower pod plate with the vbc pod aluminum and upper pod plate, but you will need to modify the vbc pod brace a bit and also use the ae crossbrace. If you wanted to use the ae pod bulkheads on the vbc, this should work, but you might need to modify the vbc brace a bit to make sure it doesn't tweak the pod when you tighten it down.

As for the Xenon stuff, there are a couple reasons why you would use it over vbc (or ae) :
- when new, the fit and finish of the xenon plastic is perfect. Essentially no slop, but with no binding either, right out of the bag. VBC plastics typically require quite a bit of sanding in the front end to make them not bind, although this has gotten better recently. Ae is similar.
- Xenon TiNi pins are really nice,and let you use a normal kingpin setup instead of the vbc setup that can be a little feisty.
- Xenon steering blocks have scrub inserts, which (as far as I know) nothing else has.
- Xenon plastics come in a couple different hardnesses, which is nice.
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Old 12-27-2014, 06:27 AM   #501
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Great, thank you very much Lloyd

Which hardnes do I have to chose for my VBC/AE? Regular or hard? And why?

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Hi all,

I am a newbie to 1/12th but not a newbie to rc.

I have race many different classes like 1/10TC 1/10WGT 1/8 Rally X 1/10 F1 and 1/8 motorcycles!

quite varied I know. But I am getting older and I cant stand being cold in the winter (live in UK).

I have been looking at the VBC lightning 12 not the V2. But what I would like to know what is the difference between them both?

That's the 12v1 and the 12v2.

Also is this a good car to start with as a ball park car or should I consider a different chassis?

cheers in advance

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bleh. wish i had thought about the xenon parts as i just baught a few vbc front end parts..
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V1 and V2 front arms, what's the difference? Just new plastic or any other changes?

Ran the car this weekend...something wasn't right all day. Finally got home and tore it down to nothing. The rear pod was all bound up (must have been one of the times I smacked the wall). Unfortunately I didn't think to check it.

Reminder to all, check your rear pod, especially after a tap with the boards.
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Looks like new plastic. Cheap enough to buy and try as spares
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Had 2 sets show up yesterday along with the V2 TiN pins/bits. I don't see any difference other than the plastic.

Upper arms still needed quite a bit of work to get them moving freely.
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I am looking to sell one of my VBC Lightning 12s, if anyone is interested in picking one up:

FS: VBC Lightning 12 w/extras and spares
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Not sure whether anyone will find this useful for usage at other tracks due to the traction conditions we encountered, but here is my final setup for the Lightning 12 from 2014 IFMAR worlds:

http://chrishillier.com/wp/wp-conten...orlds_2014.pdf

Please let me know if you have any questions!
Awesome! Do you happen to have your Flow settings available?
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I know a lot of guys have moved to aftermarket shocks but I justed wanted to chime in that crc encore shock orings are a nice upgrade to stock. I had to put a 0.2 shim between the oring and lower body of shock but now they very smooth and don't leak. I suppose a shim could be used on the stock orings as well but I've never been happy with the blue orings.
My two vbc pancars all ready for this weekend. Excited!
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Would love to see some setups from the Birds? 13.5 would be awesome!

Also, I'm using a Slapmaster thrust bearing on the car and wondered what people are using for a diff nut, he recommends an aluminum lock nut so I purchased a set of M4 locknuts. They aren't threading on (and I won't force it). What are people using? I'll keep using the plastic nuts till I can find something.




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I know a lot of guys have moved to aftermarket shocks but I justed wanted to chime in that crc encore shock orings are a nice upgrade to stock. I had to put a 0.2 shim between the oring and lower body of shock but now they very smooth and don't leak. I suppose a shim could be used on the stock orings as well but I've never been happy with the blue orings.
My two vbc pancars all ready for this weekend. Excited!
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