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Old 07-11-2014, 06:14 AM   #481
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Is there any plan to put a WGT car out this year? id like to pick up a third class for indoor that isnt 1/12 stock.
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Heh. Maybe ill just make one..... sm hubs, ae 1/10 kingpins, custom chassis. Ezpz.
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Old 08-21-2014, 02:40 AM   #483
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Hey all,

The L12 is going to be my first 1/12th do you know if there's a new spec coming out soon or this will be the current model for awhile you think?

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Is there a Decent alternative to the factory shock orings? Getting the 12th scales ready and would like to be rid of the leaky cap.
My lightnings were pretty good last year I could just never figure out my reedy 13.5.. the 4.0 however....mod12th just all sorts of awesome.
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Hello
How is the lightning 12 compared to a xray x12? Will get a new 12 scale car for this winter and chooses between this two cars.
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The L12 is going to be my first 1/12th do you know if there's a new spec coming out soon or this will be the current model for awhile you think?

Thanks heaps.
There are some minor tweaks coming out for the car in the next couple months. new antenna/shock mount and new plastics. But its nothing dramatic. You will be able to upgrade these parts. The car is fantastic as it sits right now. Just finished another testing session up in Denver at 5280 raceway and my car was on point. .4-.5 faster per lap than any other brand of mod 12th that was at the track. I feel a World Championship top 10 coming soon for the Lightning12!!!
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Is there a Decent alternative to the factory shock orings? Getting the 12th scales ready and would like to be rid of the leaky cap.
My lightnings were pretty good last year I could just never figure out my reedy 13.5.. the 4.0 however....mod12th just all sorts of awesome.
You can use CRC, Silva, Team Prime orings all fit, or you can just run one of those shocks. I haven't quite figured out how to build mine the way I want yet. I run the HB shock. Since they don't make that shock anymore the Team Prime shock looks like a direct copy of the HB shock.
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You should come to wcics max ha.

I.might try a crc shock. They locally available and pretty cheap but would nice to keep to oem if possible.
I'm already running crc springs.

I don't get a lot of wheeltime in mod but it seems.my mod and 13.5 car were pretty much the same last year. Both cars were top 3-5 within my club racing

One thing I'd like to.do this year is get back.into the inline layout. Transverse worked so well I left it that way all year.
I also.never really touched the side spring layout, one of the nice features. But maybe that is for 17.5. The 13.5 car just didn't feel good with it.
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You should come to wcics max ha.

I.might try a crc shock. They locally available and pretty cheap but would nice to keep to oem if possible.
I'm already running crc springs.

I don't get a lot of wheeltime in mod but it seems.my mod and 13.5 car were pretty much the same last year. Both cars were top 3-5 within my club racing

One thing I'd like to.do this year is get back.into the inline layout. Transverse worked so well I left it that way all year.
I am still a huge proponent of transverse after racing it at every big race I attended this past season, but after a couple practice sessions with Max leading up to Worlds, I think it is very likely that I will go back to inline. When traction comes up inline is just a lot easier to drive and there are some front end tweaks I am trying that help retain the steering that I like with the car in transverse.

I guess the moral of the story is that the car is really good in both battery configurations!
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You should come to wcics max ha.

I.might try a crc shock. They locally available and pretty cheap but would nice to keep to oem if possible.
I'm already running crc springs.

I don't get a lot of wheeltime in mod but it seems.my mod and 13.5 car were pretty much the same last year. Both cars were top 3-5 within my club racing

One thing I'd like to.do this year is get back.into the inline layout. Transverse worked so well I left it that way all year.
I also.never really touched the side spring layout, one of the nice features. But maybe that is for 17.5. The 13.5 car just didn't feel good with it.
Is that the race on the island? Brian Bodine was telling me about that race while we were in Denver a couple days ago. That sounds like an awesome race! I will defiantly mark it down on my calendar.

The only reason why I run the Hot bodies shock is because i have pre-production shocks and the parts don't quite fit right. Me and Ehrlich had the same problem at IIC last year so we just slapped on what we had. Also we didn't have different big bore center springs. As for springs I'm all over the place with my mod car right now. Ive been swapping between AE blacks and CRC 45s. Then front springs I've been between AE 20s and SM 21s. But then again. My setups in my mind are super easy to drive. But give it to Chris and he can't drive it and says it pushes off the track. Just depends on how you want your car to drive. If you tell me how you like your car to handle, then i can point you in the right direction if your looking for setup help!

As for side spring location... 13.5 and 17.5 I ran side springs on the pod plate with an AE silver. For mod I would suggest putting them over the links so you can run a softer spring. My theory is "softer springs = easier to drive."

Ive only run the car inline. So I don't really have a valid point of what makes inline better than transverse. Although I almost TQ'd IIC in 13.5 with the battery inline last year.
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Next month or so. It might make a surprise appearance at IIC and TZGP.
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I definitely drive a little different in 13.5 than the norm where I am. Been practicing lots of mod so I use my push brakes in everything to the nose on the apex and gear the car to pull hard out of the corners.
Might be a carry over from driving so.much nitro. Maybe I suck lol I just like a nosey car.
I've been running your front end setup from last year and playing around with rear widths and damping mostly.
Settled on crc 50 f/r and around 8k side oil. Center is stock shock, 20 holes wt ae and stock spring.
Haven't got around to ordering the center spring kit, but i got the side spring kit and went to crc springs not long after.

Most of the faster guys at our track are running crc magenta front blue/ green rear since the new carpet in 2013.
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I definitely drive a little different in 13.5 than the norm where I am. Been practicing lots of mod so I use my push brakes in everything to the nose on the apex and gear the car to pull hard out of the corners.
Might be a carry over from driving so.much nitro. Maybe I suck lol I just like a nosey car.
I've been running your front end setup from last year and playing around with rear widths and damping mostly.
Settled on crc 50 f/r and around 8k side oil. Center is stock shock, 20 holes wt ae and stock spring.
Haven't got around to ordering the center spring kit, but i got the side spring kit and went to crc springs not long after.

Most of the faster guys at our track are running crc magenta front blue/ green rear since the new carpet in 2013.
You might like one of Chris Hilliers setup if you like a car on the nose with a lot of steering. Im sure he will chime in soon. Springs. I would get away from the CRC front springs since they are so short. Use Speedmerchant Springs up front. Bruce has a great selection from 17,18,19,20,21.
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hooooly i have to edit what i write on my phone lol. i hate that android thing... iphone almost never had typos that bad lol..

ill look into speed merchant spring set. do i get them from speed merchant direct? who is this bruce person?
the main thing im fighting in 13.5 is finding the damn power.. with 17.5 boost i was on pace with the fastest in our club, blake craig and jamie.. come 13.5 blinky iv'e struggled a little bit.
definitely open to suggestions. i WANT to try a V10.. but maybe just in mod tc..

definitely see if you can come to wcics round 4 Victoria. its the biggest one by a good amount at 230 entries the last two years we have run it. Mod 12th scale had like 48 or 50 entries with 13.5 being in the 60s. mod tc was also well represented.
big names i know of who attended; brian bodine, dave elrich, kevin hebert, kody knudson, korgae scales, blake bell, craig roberts ect, Keith Yu and others i dont know by name probably.
I haven't yet gone to a big us race though so its my only benchmark of a big race lol. sooner or later ill have enough money to travel some.

i can race with blake and craig, but they have 20 years plus plus on me lol. everything has to go perfect for me lol.
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hooooly i have to edit what i write on my phone lol. i hate that android thing... iphone almost never had typos that bad lol..

ill look into speed merchant spring set. do i get them from speed merchant direct? who is this bruce person?
the main thing im fighting in 13.5 is finding the damn power.. with 17.5 boost i was on pace with the fastest in our club, blake craig and jamie.. come 13.5 blinky iv'e struggled a little bit.
definitely open to suggestions. i WANT to try a V10.. but maybe just in mod tc..
Bruce Carbone is the guy who owns/runs SpeedMerchant. Just place an order through his online shop and you will get the springs, although he isn't the fastest at shipping. Awesome guy, though!

Where are you rolled out for 13.5? And with what motor? I think we were all rolled out in the 80-84 mm range at IIC last fall, so maybe start somewhere in that range?

As Max mentioned, I definitely drive a more aggressive car than he does, so maybe look at some of the setups on petitrc that I have posted. Here are some of the things I do to make the car have more steering:

- Pretty narrow front end, only 1 mm shims on lower bulkhead (so 2 mm total)
- No front brace
- Upper arm at stock spacing (not shimmed in to reduce camber gain and flatten the arms)
- 1 degree camber (not sure what Max runs, so this might not be too weird)
- Thicker tube lube than what Max runs (I ran 30k all of last season compared to the 7.5k or 10k that Max runs.) This helps keep the car more level and reduces double-steering, which I find mod 12th is really prone to when traction comes up, likely due to the really soft side springs we run (AE black or even softer)

The biggest thing that I think makes my cars feel super aggressive, though, has to do with servo setup (and isn't captured on setup sheets.) I run very little steering throw but max travel (150% on KO, also known as dual-rate with most other radios.) This means the steering is really touchy, but the small amount of steering throw helps tame it if you can be gentle off-center. Max hates it, though Obviously, you would only notice this if you drove my car with my radio

If you like a car that gets on its nose, the other thing you can try is to add pod droop and use push/drag brake to get the weight transfer to the front.

I actually went to school in Victoria (uvic), so maybe I need to try and arrange a comeback?
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